New Low From Trump

[Gurucam]

well, there's your hero

A nice, happy couple. Oh sad and jealous people, Eat your heart out.

It seems that when one is a star, one can have any (younger or other) woman?

What more proof do you need. What indeed does a red blooded man seeks?

Ladies most of your husbands would like to have a hobby (a part time preoccupation) that includes a young beautiful woman (other that you of course). If they deny it, it is simply for expediency sake. Probably because they are afraid to speak the truth. May be you can hurt or destroy them, emotionally . . . because they probably still love you dearly and can't live without you and do not want to live without you.

Yet their hearts may still yearn for more and different. What is a man to do in this foolishly and unnaturally configured world?

I am not doubting that women have the same problem.

 

[Foxfire]

In most of its posts, this thread has long been permitted to be a debate on the morality of Trump and Clinton.

Indeed the caption "a new low from Trump" is a moral judgment and a moral dismissal of Trump.

This would obviously lead to: what informs your ideas of morality? That is, on what high moral ground do you stand?

Pretty sure that, if not for you, for many posters on this thread, morality is linked to the bible.

Many ideas of morality (as held by posters to this thread) are anchored in the virtues/evils of Catholicism. How then can Catholicism not be relevant on a thread so steeped in moral judgments?

Just seeking your wise and just answer.

With respect to your posts in particular, you did, at the very least, mention Trump.

Are you attempting to make some sort of a point that Catholicism is somehow an integral component of this presidential campaign?

 

[Gurucam]

Romans: 14 KJV N.T.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

nothing is an independent, clear and strong word.

In the above it conveys that nothing is morally wrong (to do), of itself. It is up to a person and his society to determine their moral code, then make them the laws of their land and live by it.

Outside of this humans are free to do as they like. This means that Mr Trump would be totally foolish and totally unfair to himself, if he does not use the tax laws to his benefit.

It is amazing that Clinton can still pull the wool over the eyes of so many Americans. It is not wrong (morally or other wise) to not pay taxes if it legally possible. The laws of a land are the just rules of life. All things else are simply the opinion of individuals and applicable only to that or those individual.

My conscience and your conscience can be totally different and very justly so, generally and in Christianity.

Wake up and smell the Christian way. Do not let people decisive and misled you. There is no just moral code outside of the laws of one's land and international laws.

 

[Gurucam]

With respect to your posts in particular, you did, at the very least, mention Trump.

Are you attempting to make some sort of a point that Catholicism is somehow an integral component of this presidential campaign?

I am saying that Catholics who so openly and freely forgive and unreservedly empower their very erring pope, has no place in passing moral judgments on Trump or Clinton.

I am saying that anyone who esteem popes (of the Catholic tradition) and their doctrines are like Catholics and have no place in passing moral judgments on Trump or Clinton. Of course this would include most of the billion strong traditional Christians.

Fact is doctrines of popes are well within traditional Christianity. The popes are guilty of mass atrocities and they were freely forgiven and empowered. Their doctrines are as tainted and them. The acceptance and use of these doctrines is an endorsement of popes.

How indeed can anyone one who endorse popes pass moral judgment on anyone else.

 

[DavidK]

Ladies most of your husbands would like to have a hobby (a part time preoccupation) that includes a young beautiful woman (other that you of course).

No. One relationship with one woman takes all the energy, focus, and humility I have. I really don't want another.

 

[DavidK]

Romans: 14 KJV N.T.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

nothing is an independent, clear and strong word.

It's a word used in the context of the rest of the letter to the Romans not to mention the rest of the letters Paul wrote. You clearly have trouble understanding context.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Unlike Presidents', Popes don't sign laws that effect the lives of well over 200 million lives here in the US and billions of lives throughout the world.

What is your point? Popes literally murdered millions in the inquisition. This is deliberate, not collateral.

Twas another time and another place.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Besides Donald Trump, how many of those men have run for President of the United States?

well, there's your hero

Your hero, not mine. Bill Clinton doesn't set the standard for Presidential conduct. Evidently you think that he does or you would have a huge problem with Donald Trump's past and current behavior towards women.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam

Ladies most of your husbands would like to have a hobby (a part time preoccupation) that includes a young beautiful woman (other that you of course).

No. One relationship with one woman takes all the energy, focus, and humility I have. I really don't want another.

Not to mention that some of us take our marriage vows seriously.

This Gurucam guy is one sick puppy.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Ladies most of your husbands would like to have a hobby (a part time preoccupation) that includes a young beautiful woman (other that you of course). If they deny it, it is simply for expediency sake. Probably because they are afraid to speak the truth. May be you can hurt or destroy them, emotionally . . . because they probably still love you dearly and can't live without you and do not want to live without you.

Yet their hearts may still yearn for more and different. What is a man to do in this foolishly and unnaturally configured world?

Become a mormon so they can (in their minds) commit legal adultery? Are you mormon?

Dont worry though, we women know most men are adulterous pigs.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Dont worry though, we women know most men are adulterous pigs.

(Misandry is alive and well at TOL).

Perhaps "you women" are hanging around the wrong kind of man/men?

 

[Crucible]

The Catholic Church had made throws at this election, saying to not vote for anyone who supports mortal sin, particularly abortion, and isn't supportive of either female headship or multiple marriages, so..

guess the Catholics just aren't voting :chuckle:

 

[Angel4Truth]

(Misandry is alive and well at TOL).

Perhaps "you women" are hanging around the wrong kind of man/men?

Misandry? No, Realist? Yes. Sex slavery, porn, prostitution, etc arent thriving because of "misandry" one need only listen to the radio, watch the news, pay attention to their own friends and church members lives even and know the truth that i spoke.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

(Misandry is alive and well at TOL).

Perhaps "you women" are hanging around the wrong kind of man/men?

Misandry? No, Realist? Yes. Sex slavery, porn, prostitution, etc arent thriving because of "misandry" one need only listen to the radio, watch the news, pay attention to their own friends and church members lives even and know the truth that i spoke.

We're without a doubt a messed up country. I was walking past a group of women recently and heard words come out of their mouths that would make truck drivers blush.

Note that I didn't say "Don't worry though, we men know that most women are foul mouthed sluts."

On that note: My pastor sets a great example for men: When he see's a beautiful woman he says to himself "Nice job God!" and moves his mind away from that in a positive direction.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

(Misandry is alive and well at TOL).

Perhaps "you women" are hanging around the wrong kind of man/men?



We're without a doubt a messed up country. I was walking past a group of women recently and heard words come out of their mouths that would make truck drivers blush.

Note that I didn't say "Don't worry though, we men know that most women are foul mouthed sluts."

On that note: My pastor sets a great example for men: When he see's a beautiful woman he says to himself "Nice job God!" and moves his mind away from that in a positive direction.

Thats great, and for each one of your pastor, there are 4 pastors who just divorced their wife for a younger woman or just got caught in adultery.

You are comparing apples with oranges and throughout history men have had a "keeping it in their pants" problem

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Thats great, and for each one of your pastor, there are 4 pastors who just divorced their wife for a younger woman or just got caught in adultery.

You are comparing apples with oranges and throughout history men have had a "keeping it in their pants" problem

Wow, I didn't know that for every Christian pastor that is faithful to his wife that there are 4 who are adulterers. Can you back that with some facts or are you in a man-hating/Christian pastor hating mood today?

Speaking of which: I've found that when you're in this type of mood, people get banned.

Have a nice day.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Wow, I didn't know that for every Christian pastor that is faithful to his wife that there are 4 who are adulterers. Can you back that with some facts or are you in a man-hating/Christian pastor hating mood today?

yes, you wanted the 4 to your one?

Heres your 4:

1)Pastor Tullian (Billy Graham's Grandson) 'Caught in Adultery'

Since admitting his affair and resigning from his pastoral position at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church, Tullian Tchividjian is undergoing "dark nights of the soul."

Billy Graham's grandson isn't the first pastor to be caught in adultery, but as he tells William Vanderbloeman in a podcast, he understands how the consequences of that sin can be suicide. ...

Also in above article it mentions 2 more who committed suicide when they were caught...

2)Three Megachurch Pastors Resign over Adultery in Orlando

The head pastor of one of America's "10 healthiest churches" has resigned after confessing that he committed adultery three years ago.

David Loveless, head pastor of Discovery Church, relinquished his pastoral duties at the Orlando megachurch this month, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

But Loveless is not the only Orlando-area pastor to confess an adulterous relationship lately. In the past six months, two other pastors, Summit Church's Isaac Hunter and The Gathering Place's Sam Hinn, also resigned.

3)Former Bedford County youth pastor, accused of relationship with teen, faces 85 felony charges

4)Will Europe's Third-Largest Church Punish Pastor for Multiple Affairs?

I could keep going but thats already way more than 4

 

[ok doser]

No. One relationship with one woman takes all the energy, focus, and humility I have. I really don't want another.

:thumb:


btw - i love the pic of your little guy in your avatar :thumb:

 

[patrick jane]

Speaking of which: I've found that when you're in this type of mood, people get banned.

Have a nice day.

:rotfl: You get banned !!!

 

[Gurucam]

No. One relationship with one woman takes all the energy, focus, and humility I have. I really don't want another.

That must be quite a woman or you are not that naturally energized. I am not that energized, my self. I am more of an abstract person. It is most natural for me to come up with ideas and have others who are more naturally physically energized implement them.

Fact is successful leader are extremely physically energized. They must be in order to be 'big time' doers (movers and shakers). They can handle many things at the same time, all day long and still have energy that they must expend for their natural survival and comfort. I do not seek to impose my need and morality on them.

I recognize that their needs are different and they have to do what they have to do. Generally they do not make good family people. However they can run things very well in other areas.

Some times they need an intimate life at the office because their life is totally there, although they have a traditional spouse and family who they love.

Who indeed have the correct approach? Most people will offer an approach which suits and serve them.