New Low From Trump

[Gurucam]

Catholics forgive all their popes and justify their forgiveness by saying: 'they (their popes) are only human'. And Catholics continue to have them (their popes) as their leaders and teachers, unscathed. They do not even say the smallest bad thing about their popes.

It is commonly accepted that Catholic popes were responsible for literally killing million of spirit/intuitive Christian people, through their inquisition.

They called these they choose to kill, witches because they were able to know things the Christian way. That is, intuitively from the Spirit of Truth, through their own hearts or spirit. This is the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

Are there any Catholics finding fault with Trump and Clinton? Catholics do believe that they are the best thing, even before slice bread. However for most everyone else they are simply a deluded, brain-washed and deceptive bunch.

Trump and Clinton cannot be less than Peter. Jesus, himself, identified Peter as follows:

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
23 But he turned, and said vnto Peter, Get thee behind mee, Satan, thou art an offence vnto me: for thou sauourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

It is clear that Jesus expected Peter and his people to continue to be Satan and to continue to practice antichrist, persecution of spiritually aware/intuitively actualized Christian people.

Jesus instructed (warned) a disciple:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Peter's is the church of the dead (i.e. the spiritually dead whose spirit must be saved):

1 Corinthians:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Seems that judgement time is at hand.

Seems that, at the very worse, Trump and Clinton are simply following the example of Catholic popes. Is it not reasonable that they be forgiven and be acceptable for leadership role as erring popes, at least among Catholics?

Foolish Catholics can be the saddest and worse deceivers of themselves. They certainly seem dead to truth and fairness. It cannot be reasonable to deny Jesus' declaration about Peter?

And on the other hand, be critical of Trump and Clinton?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Catholics forgive all their popes because they (their popes) are only human. And Catholics continue to have them ( their popes) as their leaders and teachers, unscathed.

Are there any Catholics finding fault with Trump and Clinton?

Unlike Presidents', Popes don't sign laws that effect the lives of well over 200 million lives here in the US and billions of lives throughout the world.

 

[PureX]

While I live in a blue state, my county of San Diego is a mix of suburban/rural conservatives (where I've spent most all my life) and urban progressives (where I've only lived this year). I've definitely been pressured by the conservatives I know to vote for Trump, and there's no doubt a lot of Trump supporters who are more likely to be Hillary-haters than actual fans of Trump. Having said that, after many red years (I don't know how far back offhand) San Diego went for Obama both in 08 and 12. I'll be really interested to see the election numbers for this election.

Isn't San Diego an affluent area? Conservatism among the affluent is understandable, The status quo has given them wealth and power, and they want to maintain the status quo to keep that wealth and power for themselves.

But poor and middle class conservatives are supporting their own exploitation and abuse by protecting the wealth and power of the status quo. It's a kind of nihilism. Maybe even self-loathing. And it comes out in a lot of free-ranging anger and resentment against humanity in general. Trump expresses that anger and resentment in public, so they identify with him.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Isn't San Diego an affluent area? Conservatism among the affluent is understandable, The status quo has given them wealth and power, and they want to maintain the status quo to keep that wealth and power for themselves.

"The status quo" meaning 8 years of an Obama Presidency.

But poor and middle class conservatives are supporting their own exploitation and abuse by protecting the wealth and power of the status quo. It's a kind of nihilism. Maybe even self-loathing. And it comes out in a lot of free-ranging anger and resentment against humanity in general. Trump expresses that anger and resentment in public, so they identify with him.

There are a lot of us in the middle class who see what Barack Obama and his socialist policies have done to America, but we know that voting for social and economic liberal Donald Trump isn't the answer to the problem.

Hence we'll try again in 4 years or 'refresh that tree of liberty', which ever comes first.

 

[ok doser]

... Donald Trump isn't the answer to the problem.

and so, liberals like you will do all you can to ensure that hillary wins the election...

...go right ahead, acw - do all you can to ensure that hillary wins the election... I am.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
... Donald Trump isn't the answer to the problem.

and so, liberals like you will do all you can to ensure that hillary wins the election...

Try reading the rest of my post:

Quote Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Hence we'll try again in 4 years [to elect a real conservative] or 'refresh that tree of liberty', which ever comes first.

Now now, play nice little boy or I'll have to call the public library and have them revoke your internet privileges.

 

[User Name]

and so, liberals like you will do all you can to ensure that hillary wins the election...

A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hellary Clinton because Johnson doesn't have a chance of winning. Likewise, a vote for Donald Trump is a vote for Hellary Clinton because Trump doesn't have a chance of winning.

Edit: Well, he may have a small chance...

"As of October 10th, the New York Times's campaign blog The Upshot estimates Trump has a 16% chance of winning, and Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight polls plus forecast gives Trump an almost 18.7% chance." -- http://www.investopedia.com/article...rent-probabilities-donald-trump-president.asp

 

[patrick jane]

Unlike Presidents', Popes don't sign laws that effect the lives of well over 200 million lives here in the US and billions of lives throughout the world.

What a fool, now you purport that Presidents make laws?

 

[Foxfire]

What a fool, now you purport that Presidents make laws?

Do you understand the subtle difference between "make laws" vs "sign laws"? The latter being the operative term in question.

 

[Catholic Crusader]

>> http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...n-bragged-putin-taking-private-inner-sanctum/

 

[david.gibbs]

How many men haven't wanted to grope at least once.


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[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Unlike Presidents', Popes don't sign laws that effect the lives of well over 200 million lives here in the US and billions of lives throughout the world.

What a fool, now you purport that Presidents make laws?

Do you understand the subtle difference between "make laws" vs "sign laws"? The latter being the operative term in question.

Thanks for helping Patrick jane understand the English language a tad bit better.

Let's not forget Executive Orders, which certain Presidents seem to enjoy immensely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

 

[aCultureWarrior]

How many men haven't wanted to grope at least once.


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Besides Donald Trump, how many of those men have run for President of the United States?

 

[patrick jane]

Do you understand the subtle difference between "make laws" vs "sign laws"? The latter being the operative term in question.

I do. Laws don't originate from the President

 

[Gurucam]

Unlike Presidents', Popes don't sign laws that effect the lives of well over 200 million lives here in the US and billions of lives throughout the world.

What is your point? Popes literally murdered millions in the inquisition. This is deliberate, not collateral.

Also the Jesus given mission for Peter was:

1 Corinthians:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The above confirm that Jesus had a church anchored by Satan, where the (spiritually) dead are sent so that their spirits might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Jesus' Satanic Church is anchored by Peter. The spiritually dead are sent to the church of Peter/Satan, so that their spirits might be saved. However Jesus knew that Peter (who denied Him three time) & Peter's church will fail. Jesus warned a disciples

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The dead refers to 'spiritually dead people. These are people whose spirits must be saved. This refers to Peter, Peter's church and Peter's following. 'Let the dead bury their dead pertains to Jesus' Satanic church for and of the dead, i.e. the spiritually dead. This is Peter's church.

In the above Jesus statement, 'let the dead bury their dead', gives added information. In that revelation, Jesus resign himself to the fact that the dead (i.e. Peter, Peter's church and Peter's following) will not have their spirits saved, they will bury each other, spiritually. This will result in helpless burial inside the earth, in hell with Satan for an indefinite stay.

When Popes/Catholics bury their dead charges they are responsible for their charges going to hell inside the earth with the big Satan for an indefinite stay.

According to Catholic beliefs, some of their charges are already inside the earth in hell with Satan for 2000 odd years. A folly by a Pope generally leads to a possible terminal end, far worse than physical death. Nothing is worse.

Catholics are not Christians. Peter's church is not Jesus Christian church. Peter's church is Jesus' Satanic church. Paul's church is Jesus 'not seen', spirit and Spirit based, Christian Church.

Christians differ in no way from Jesus Christ, except that Jesus is Lord of All. To be in Christ is to be like Jesus Christ.

The above means that Christians are not buried in the earth, in hell with Satan. This means, that when Christians die on earth, they rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus Christ) to be like angels in heaven.

Popes never let their charges know the above fact, about Christians. They delight in burying their charges in the earth, in hell, with Satan to wait indefinitely, on the supposed return of a physical Jesus. This is one set of Satan (on the surface of earth) recruiting for the big Satan inside the earth, in hell. It is not likely that Catholics will be redeemed from inside the earth, in hell, with Satan. Catholics are not pleasing Jesus. They are pleasing Satan/Peter.

Clearly you do not recognize the far more serious impact a mistake or deception, by Popes can have, when compared to a mistake made by Trump or Clinton.

Matthew: 10 KJV N.T.
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

It is very unfortunate that the above, very obvious, Christian point had to be made to you. You, who compare the action of popes to those of Trump and Clinton, seem to be totally without faith and recognition of God.

Popes have a long history of dragging all things down to carnal/flesh/physical. This is the way of Satan. The way of God and Christianity is purely, none physical, spirit and Spirit based.

The former is peter's way. The latter is Paul's way . . . and they ain't the same, not in the slightest way . . . Oh those sad, fooled-up and arrogant Catholic.

The following is the instruction for Christians:

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit (of Jesus): and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Peter is not the vicar of Christ. Peter was not appointed to anchor Jesus' 'Christ' or Christian church. Peter was appointed to anchor Jesus Satanic church which is essentially 'seen', temporal, physical/flesh/carnal based.

Paul is the vicar of Christ. Paul was appointed to anchor Jesus 'Christ' or Christian church which is not seen, eternal, spirit and Spirit based.

Wake up to truth, before too late is your cry and your sad end.

 

[ok doser]

Besides Donald Trump, how many of those men have run for President of the United States?

well, there's your hero

 

[Foxfire]

This thread is not a debate about the virtues/evils of Catholicism. If that's the debate you wish to pursue, then please do so in an appropriate thread.

 

[ok doser]

to get back to the OP:

So what do all of you Trump supporters think of his recent disgusting comments about groping women?

i think he's a pig

How are you all going to spin this in your minds so that you can continue to support this disgusting loser?

easy

he's still better than hillary

How far into the realm of absurdity and lies will you go to blame this on Hillary and Obama?

if hillary and obama weren't determined to destroy america, we wouldn't have to vote for disgusting pigs like trump

Because I know that you will not change your mind about Trump,

i won't change my mind that he's a better choice than hillary, no

no matter what he says or does.

well, unless he endorses hillary

So you will have to find some way to rationalize away this most recent spate of grotesque comments.

easy

he's still better than hillary

And, of course, some of you will agree with his attitude

i don't see anybody doing that

 

[Crucible]

Gurucam—————the Inquisition is over 500 years old, those involved are ALL dead and have been judged accordingly. Secondly—-the Church is 2000 years old and still "up and running" as Jesus had promised and yes some bad apples have made their way into Church affairs, nothing new in groups made up of humans and their foibles…….

The RCC is up and running just like the EO and the EC, it's not hard to keep a church running so long as you have people adhering to it.

As for stats regarding the Inquisition ———— the Inquisition over many years about 6,000 deaths……

Which doesn't include the amount of arrests, imprisonment, torture, banishment, and everything else which dwarf that number alongside it.

 

[Gurucam]

This thread is not a debate about the virtues/evils of Catholicism. If that's the debate you wish to pursue, then please do so in an appropriate thread.

In most of its posts, this thread has long been permitted to be a debate on the morality of Trump and Clinton.

Indeed the caption "a new low from Trump" is a moral judgment and a moral dismissal of Trump.

This would obviously lead to: what informs your ideas of morality? That is, on what high moral ground do you stand?

Pretty sure that, if not for you, for many posters on this thread, morality is linked to the bible.

Many ideas of morality (as held by posters to this thread) are anchored in the virtues/evils of Catholicism. How then can Catholicism not be relevant on a thread so steeped in moral judgments?

Just seeking your wise and just answer.

Christians are different. They do not have or hold any fixed moral position:

Romans: 14 KJV N.T.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

nothing is an independent, clear and strong word.

In the above it conveys that nothing is morally wrong (to do), of itself. It is up to a person and his society to determine their moral cord, make it a law of their land and live by it.

Outside of this humans are free to do as they like. This means that Mr Trump would be totally foolish and totally unfair to himself, if he does not use the tax laws to his benefit.

It is amazing that Clinton can still pull the wool over the eyes of so many Americans.

Wake up and smell the Christian way. Do not let people decisive and misled you. There is no just moral code outside of the laws of one's land and international laws.