RD: "Perhaps you should learn the creationist model instead of burying your head in secular (atheist) ideas."
One secular (atheist) who believes as I do that the whole world is under 10000 years old? I don't know of any but I'm curious to see who you're talking about.
What does that have to do with what RD said?
What does that have to do with starlight coming from stars billions of lightyears away reaching us in under 10000 years?
Everything.
See:
https://rsr.org/stretch
Was the garden full of plants?
Yes.
Yes.
Is there any reason to think that the soil in the garden was something other than fertile soil?
No.
Like that it was gravel, for instance? Or just beach sand?
No one has asserted that it was anything other than fertile soil, other than you, who asserts that it was also fossils, which are, by definition, dead things turned into rocks (to keep things simple).
You have yet to provide anything other than assertions as to why fossils are not, in fact, dead creatures.
I'll take this up because you keep accusing me of it. There are two stories out there, one is that the universe was created in six days, and the other is that it's been around for more than six billion years. I believe the former, and not the latter.
Then quit promoting the latter.
I believe the expert cosmologists and evolutionists when they say that the story they're reading in the stars and in the rocks says that the universe is "billions of years" old, and that evolution generated all the living species we have today, mankind included.
Which is in direct contradiction to the former, above. You can't have both, Idol.
I believe this is what the story is, because I do not think they are lying,
Naiive.
or are deluded or confused either.
Their sin has made them stupid.
They have their theories and their instruments and their archeological digs. The evidence they point to is consistent with what they say that the story is.
Except it's not, because the evidence only supports the former, above.
I personally just find the story to be ludicrous. It requires believing that a very great number of extraordinarily unlikely and improbable events all occurred, almost one right after the other, to cause the world to be what it is today.
So why believe it at all then?
i o w it's a patent fairy tale or fantasy story.
Then why believe it at all?
o t o h, the Genesis account says that God is real and that He made everything in six days.
That it does. And it is far more reasonable than the latter, above.
Neither story is at first blush what anybody without bias would say is immediately credible,
The former is credible, because that's what actually happened.
It is the bias against God that makes people assert that it is not credible.
but since these are the only two options basically, and we're to choose which one seems best (no valid appeal to authority exists, so we're on our own), I find the God theory in Genesis to be more likely and probably than the story written in the stars and in the rocks.
In fact I find the idea that God is real to be far less of a stretch than the story that cosmologists and evolutionists are saying is written in nature.
Thankfully, facts aren't based on feelings.
So while the story written in nature is false,
The "story written in nature" matches the one described in God's word, the former, above.
It does not match the latter, above.
it's not as if God ever once said that we should learn about Him or His works from what we find in nature, whenever it might oppose what He says very plainly in human language in His Word.
Reality doesn't oppose God. That you've been convinced that it might be otherwise is your problem.
He did not make this difficult, He made it easy, and simple. Believe Him, when He says, in words, what He wants you to know.
And don't take man's assertions and believe them in place of what God says.
If what He says in nature conflicts with that,
It doesn't.
that's all very interesting and all, but it's not going to rise to the level of doubting His Word, or of making me think that He's lying or "fake". He made it plain what the truth is.
Except that when you assert that reality contradicts the Bible, you are, by definition, doubting God.