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Derf

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Why did you say there were two Sabbaths that week?
The feast of unleavened bread starts with the day of passover, which is a sabbath day no matter which day of the week it falls on. If on Friday, it makes for two sabbath days in a row (neither of which would work for the women to go to the tomb, apparently, so they waited until Sunday morning).

Some have even suggested Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday, and there were 3 sabbath in a row. I don't remember what the third sabbath was related to.
 

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Why are you bringing a midnight-to-midnight calendar day into the conversation when we are talking about a time line from 2000 years ago?

Because we live in the present, and it's easier for people today to understand.

BTW, you say that the Messiah was crucified on Thursday. But Maundy Thursday is defined as the day before a Friday crucifixion.

Right, that's because it assumes a Friday crucifixion. I'm challenging that assumption.
 

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The feast of unleavened bread starts with the day of passover, which is a sabbath day no matter which day of the week it falls on. If on Friday, it makes for two sabbath days in a row (neither of which would work for the women to go to the tomb, apparently, so they waited until Sunday morning).

Some have even suggested Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday, and there were 3 sabbath in a row. I don't remember what the third sabbath was related to.

The crucial point is that Christ was the passover Lamb. He was killed the same day that the animal lamb was being killed (probably at the same time), in preparation for the Passover, since they could not do any work on the passover, it had to be done before.

Thursday crucifixion Friday Passover makes sense. Friday crucifixion does not.
 

Idolater

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The crucial point is that Christ was the passover Lamb. He was killed the same day that the animal lamb was being killed (probably at the same time), in preparation for the Passover, since they could not do any work on the passover, it had to be done before.

I was thinking along the same lines, but the thing is that they ate the Passover the night in which He was betrayed, meaning the Passover lambs had already been killed by then.

Given they counted a day's beginning at nightfall, then that would make the night in which He was betrayed 15 Nisan. Lambs were to be killed during 14 Nisan.

Thursday crucifixion Friday Passover makes sense. Friday crucifixion does not.

If the Sabbath during any Passover is a "high Sabbath" that comports with the Gospel narratives.
 

Derf

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The crucial point is that Christ was the passover Lamb. He was killed the same day that the animal lamb was being killed (probably at the same time), in preparation for the Passover, since they could not do any work on the passover, it had to be done before.

Thursday crucifixion Friday Passover makes sense. Friday crucifixion does not.
In terms of the high sabbath, it could still work for the passover to be on a Saturday (Friday evening). Christ's death would occur in the afternoon (the "evening" seems to mean while the sun is going down...from its apex that day). But there are other things in play. The requirements for the passover include selecting the lamb (goat kid was ok) on the 10th of the month, and keeping it with the family until the 14th, when the sacrifice was accomplished. I think Jesus' triumphal entry is the selection, and it occurred on Sunday. The 14th would be Thursday. But if they kill the lamb on the 14th, they eat it on the 15th, after sundown of the 14th.

As @Idolater mentioned, the synoptic gospels indicate that Jesus ate the passover meal on the night before He was killed. One suggestion I've heard to reconcile this is that the Galilee passover ended up one day earlier because of when the new moon was first seen there compared to Jerusalem. Or perhaps they were "beyond the Jordan" at the new moon, something like that. I don't know why Jesus ate "the passover" with His disciples a day earlier than the leaders of Jerusalem ate the passover.

I expect that if we understand the timing correctly, it would pinpoint the correct year of His crucifixion as well.
 

Idolater

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In your post #4 you said "The next day, after the night He was betrayed, He was put to death, on Friday.
So, after the Thursday night that He was betrayed, and after Thursday daytime, and after Friday night time He was crucified at 9am?

15 Nisan began on the night in which He was betrayed. In modern parlance it was Thursday night, but according to thinking the evening comes first followed by the day, they would have said the night in which He was betrayed was Friday night, followed by Friday day. We would call that Thursday night.
 
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