LIberal plows into crowd of liberals in Va

[exminister]

Lil Jeff has declared the events in Charlottesville don't meet the definition of domestic terrorism.


Under the Patriot Act, person engages in domestic terrorism if their actions are ""dangerous to human life"" that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping.

If this nutter aimed his vehicle at strangers taking a particular stand against a particular ideology/movement then how is the nutter not fulfilling (i) and meeting the definition? Or is Lil Jeff of the mind that the nutter was after someone he knew for some other reason?

Just another in a growing list of reasons to not take this administration seriously as guardians of the public trust and right.

Edit point: yes, I know the nutter's name.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions said a driver's ramming a car into a crowd of demonstrators in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, which killed a young woman and sent 19 other people to hospitals, "does meet the definition of domestic terrorism" under U.S. law.

"It does meet the definition of domestic terrorism in our statute," Sessions told ABC News' David Muir on "Good Morning America" today. "We are pursuing it in the [Department of Justice] in every way that we can make a case."


https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trumps-at...r-ramming-113305866--abc-news-topstories.html

(video at page above where Jeff is interviewed)

I didn't have any coffee today but I am thinking Jeff is saying it DOES mean the definition of domestic terrorism. Yes?

He dances around quickly on why Trump doesn't clearly call out the Nazis and KKK for it which leaves the antifa group in the mix.

 

[Town Heretic]

I didn't have any coffee today but I am thinking Jeff is saying it DOES mean the definition of domestic terrorism. Yes?

You must have missed my answer on this one. Yahoo had it wrong then corrected the headline. I noted the first story, went back to find it absent then resurfacing with the appropriate heading.

Has he changed his mind?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/us/politics/domestic-terrorism-sessions.html

Apparently not. Yahoo has amended. So that's some hope. :thumb:

He dances around quickly on why Trump doesn't clearly call out the Nazis and KKK for it which leaves the antifa group in the mix.

It's a peculiar history Trump has with certain groups. He's been clear on disavowing in the past, then suddenly coy, then back on point. No idea why. Maybe it's a momentary thing with him. Sometimes he feels more strongly about it than others. But that's just speculation.

 

[ok doser]

Who were America's mortal enemies during WWII?

If you'd asked my grandfather, he would have told you "roosevelt" :chuckle:

 

[jgarden]

that group doesnt need to represent mainstream america. because they do not does not mean they are automatically racists or incorrect/invalid in their arguement.

No group that doesn't harbor racist, white supremist, Nazi sympathies would participate in such a protest and risk having its reputation tainted by associating with those groups.

I've belonged to a number of musical groups and all have a code of conduct prohibiting members from wearing their uniforms in public unless it is directly associated with a group function!

 

[patrick jane]

[MENTION=7147]jgarden[/MENTION] the libtard

 

[patrick jane]

Lil Jeff has declared the events in Charlottesville don't meet the definition of domestic terrorism.

Lil Town likes to ridicule and belittle the current administration. But he's not a leftist

 

[gcthomas]

We chose to make germany our enemy

That is not a true reflection of the event. The US could have easily have been tied up in the Pacific and been able to give only marginal help to Britain.

The order of events was:
Japan and Germany join with others to make the Axis powers.
Japan attacks Germany and declares war on them. Encourages Germany to do the same.
Germany declares war on America two days later.

The US population wanted Japan punished, and America was likely to only take the war to Japan, but Germany's foolish declaration allowed the US government to join in with Britain in Europe as Roosevelt had wanted to do for some time. The western governments cheered for the Allied victory that Hitler's declaration of War would bring.

 

[ok doser]

Japan attacks Germany and declares war on them.

:freak:

 

[WizardofOz]

Lil Town likes to ridicule and belittle the current administration. But he's not a leftist

That is absolutely correct. Criticizing a republican president does not make one a liberal or a democrat by default.

 

[Town Heretic]

Lil Town likes to ridicule and belittle the current administration. But he's not a leftist

Just so. If only you believed the truth you don't mean to tell as readily as you accept the lie you mean to believe.

That is absolutely correct. Criticizing a republican president does not make one a liberal or a democrat by default.

Not if you're rational. So you can sort of see his point. And how it could help to keep his cap on in a strong wind. lain:

 

[jgarden]

LIberal plows into crowd of liberals in Va

If this had been Muslim groups instead of white supremists, Trump would have spared no effort to denounce their actions!

Having Steve Bannon and the "alt right" advising the President from their offices in the White House, it was too much to expect anything more than a blanket comment against violence from both sides - followed by a long silence!

This constitutes an open admission by "The Donald" that as part of his "base," racists, neo-Nazis and white Supremists are not going to be denounced by this White House!

 

[exminister]

Trump just gave a short speech. He mentioned the 3 hate groups by name and then added "other groups". He didn't say "domestic terrorism". He said the speech with all the fervor of his Obama was born in the US after 5 years of questioning it. It was like cod liver oil in his mouth. He took no questions.

This is the PC of the right.

Sure the hate groups will say he had to do it but they know he is on their side. Will he go after them like Muslim - heck no.

 

[Arthur Brain]

1.

Another pre-fab Soros astroturf flop. You people aren't half as clever as you think you are. And that goes double for you TOL leftists.

Oh wow, the irony...

You have to be one of the most willfully ignorant, paranoid conspiracy nuts there's been on here.

:kookoo:

 

[ok doser]

That is absolutely correct. Criticizing a republican president does not make one a liberal or a democrat by default.

I don't remember town being nearly as critical of bammy :think:

 

[Town Heretic]

I don't remember town being nearly as critical of bammy :think:

Seriously guy, get another hobby. lain:

 

[Arthur Brain]

Seriously guy, get another hobby. lain:

I don't think he knows how...

lain:

 

[ClimateSanity]

It's an example of a mentality at play.

Is that what most likely happened here or are you simply playing incredulous?



We know two things that he believes, don't we?


Whoa, that's deep. What lies does it tell with the truth? Any examples?


What is the significance as to whether Trump personally knows all of his Nazi supporters? It's the reason why they choose to support him in the first place, and why they support him so vehemently that is up for discussion.

I doubt Jim Jones knew all of his followers.



Just as this tidbit doesn't negate the fact that many are indeed, racist.



This is just hand waving. "These aren't the droids you're looking for".

Nazis don't support Trump because of nazi policies. They probably support him because he is the first president in a long time who cares about the forgotten man of which so many of these "Nazis" are. They just glom onto the nazi label to give meaning to their lives and a way of thinking that answers their questions.

 

[Danoh]

Musty wished he was marching with the Nazis. Maybe they won't have him.

Some years back, someone I know made a ton of money on several different occasions over the years, off of spanking brand new, straight off the presses t-shirts, caps, flags, etc., that people wanted for one major event or another.

And the fact of matter?

Many of those people were long time hardcore followers of the one thing or another they were celebrating.

The fact of their memorabilia being spanking brand new, often providing no clue whatsoever, that they were long time followers.

Lost track of how many times one individual or another would be reminded by someone with them, of the fact of their "already have one of those at home."

The oft repeated response "yeah, but that on is sacred; this one is just in case (it rains," or "it gets lost," or "stolen," or "torn" - you name It).

But some people end up so skewed in their perception of the reality of one thing or another, that those things that often differ within much in life, ever remain hidden to such...and in plain sight.

Anyone wanna buy a still spanking brand new, left-over t-shirt, from when so and so died - it's still in it's original packaging.

What's that?

So what you're saying is, you're "a long time follower...already have one, but..."

The price just went up - remember, now - it's brand new :chuckle:

Rom. 5:8

 

[randomvim]

Hat? lain: So, you are unable or unwilling to say that the guy wearing a nazi sign is deplorable? Those he is with don't see it as deplorable.

I thought you were commenting more on where he is and who he may have been voting for since it is clear he has a nazi band on arm.

Of coarse its deplorable. I hate everything that symbol has come to represent.

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[drbrumley]

There's a lot of "left-wing" vs. "right-wing" allegations being thrown around, especially after the latest violence in Charlottesville. We're told that "leftist" Communist groups are pitted against "far-right" Nazi groups.
That may well be the case, but it's important to realize that they're all Socialists!
The whole left/right stuff can be dropped. They're just different brands of Socialism.
It must be remembered that the U.S.S.R. stood for Union of Soviet *Socialist* Republics.
Meanwhile, NAZI stood for National *Socialism.*
So when you look at the ridiculous "political spectrum" that people often use, both "left-wing" and "right-wing" equal Socialism.
Here's a good question: Where does that leave Liberty?
Ahhh....look how that happened!

Well said Mr. Paul