LA doctor says hydroxychloroquine treatment cures coronavirus in 8 to 12 hours.

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Yeah, that's due to the coronavirus: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#68b757bf727d

The fact remains that Trump has enriched himself by his policies as president: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/heres-how-trump-stands-to-benefit-from-the-republican-tax-bill.html
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I know you're a paid disinformation agent as I've seen your tactics too many times to miss the fact, but your disinformation is so transparent it's unbelievable. Trump's net worth has been dropping ever since he became president. What's truly ironic is that you argue that Trump is becoming wealthier from the coronavirus and out of the other side of your mouth, you know the other fork of your tongue, that he's losing money from the coronavirus. Pretty strange if you ask me that you can claim Trump is getting wealthier as he's losing $1 billion and close to another half a billion since he became president. I guess that's your version of economics. When a person is losing money they are in fact becoming wealthier. :dizzy: But that is the same as the rest of socialist logic. f

Your tax bill link has already been refuted. Those policies help millions of people. So what if they help him too. Is he supposed to destroy himself just because he's President? You just keep on throwing out the same tired old fallacies and ignoring all the Democrats who have used their political careers to become wealthy.
 
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Pelosi's the real pig.

And I believe I read somewhere that Obama inherited a massive fortune from his stepfather after he left office? I can't find anything to corroborate that.
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I don't believe the inheritance story is true. However, Obama has been getting very lucrative deals ever since he left the presidency, and he wanted to get far more wealthy than he has. If he had gotten his way on the carbon tax laws he would have been wealthy beyond understanding as he was at the floor level of that scam. He was part of the group that dreamed that scam up. If he isn't currently a billionaire it's because the carbon tax was rejected and that was one of the policies he put major effort into getting passed. Just imagine that. A Democrat making concerted efforts to pass laws that would have made him extremely wealthy at the expense of all those little guys he was proclaiming he was out to protect. Utter hypocrisy and deceit.
 
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Where is all that harsh criticism of the Democrat politicians who have used their political careers to get extremely wealthy? Do you have any integrity?
 
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I don't know either, but you discussed Trump in your post, so I replied to that.



Motivations are neither here nor there. The fact is that Trump has enriched himself greatly through his policies as president, so your claim that Trump is "doing this job without pay" has been found to be as fallacious as your claim that Trump "isn't nearly as often on the golf course as past presidents."
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He did say he wasn't going to have time for it. Perhaps pressures of office need a release, as all presidents seemed to golf quite a bit. I'm not really too attached the subject and this isn't the thread. This isn't that important.
 
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i tried, with no success, to get jgarden to discuss the leadership in Ottawa and Toronto (in fact, I have Justin Trudeau in my ear at the moment, he's giving a press conference (virtual?) - they just went into French, so I'm gonna turn it off.)

and i've tried for years to get artie to discuss british politics, to no avail

same lately with eider, again, to no avail


they'd much rather bash Trump
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:think: Maybe we really are the epicenter of the world :noway:
 
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I agree that politics should be the very last thing discussed in what is, or may be, a national emergency, but that is not how the left has chosen to act. Everything is political for them and an opportunity to attack Trump. His every statement is used as a way to criticize. It's the Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals agenda which the left follows very religiously. They don't like Christianity so they have to have some kind of religion so they've adopted Alinsky's religion of deceit and hypocrisy, which he adopted from our "pal" Lucifer, and said so publicly.

And as many of our "pals" on the left are Luciferians what else can we expect from them but how they act. They've adopted his way of governing and government: by force.
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I've come to know some of them a bit differently. While I think I have to take your evidence seriously, my grandfather was a democrat during a time when it was not only possible to be Christian, but where many Christians were. It was a time where morality polarization wasn't the hallmark of political division. A good many of the older generation that are Democrats, have remained Democrat without following the evil examples. I'm not a Democrat, but I'm no longer Republican either. I'm somewhere in between, voting for the lesser of two evils most of the time.
 
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I've come to know some of them a bit differently. While I think I have to take your evidence seriously, my grandfather was a democrat during a time when it was not only possible to be Christian, but where many Christians were. It was a time where morality polarization wasn't the hallmark of political division. A good many of the older generation that are Democrats, have remained Democrat without following the evil examples. I'm not a Democrat, but I'm no longer Republican either. I'm somewhere in between, voting for the lesser of two evils most of the time.
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I'm not a member of any political party. I find that too restrictive of whom I will choose to vote for. And, as George Washington told us the party system would destroy liberty in the long run.

Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals is online and can be downloaded for free. In it you can see his forward dedicated to Lucifer. If you'd like to see more info on Luciferianism and politics start doing research on a witch named Maria Abramovich. She does spirit cooking dinners with a an entire group of Democrats like the Podestas and Clintons and also with a bunch of celebrities. They have food in the shape of human bodies at their parities.

To show the familiarity with Hillary Abramovitch was invited to Hillary's party marking the beginning of her run for either the senate of the presidency. I can't remember which off the top of my head as it's been years since I studied into all of this.
 
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I have almost as much contempt for Democrats as I do for Republicans a this point. However: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-to-this-data/
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More fake news. There have been multiple books published on the stream of graft that flows through politics. Those books document the graft common to both parties in Washington. You ought to do a little reading.

Oh, and btw, I've seen a whole lot of your posts criticizing Democrats. Wow. I mean this forum is littered with them. You hate them as bad as you do Trump and the republicans. :rotfl:

Did you actually expect me to believe you? I mean you do have an extensive posting history that clearly demonstrates your bias.
 
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Of course, I know why, but sometimes, calling out something 'out of place' can be done simply by asking questions, hence "Why is this a part of this thread?" Wherever Trump falls on the arrogance scale isn't that important to me, nor was there an intention of discussing him further in thread. It was simply a 'love him or hate him, what does it matter to thread?' I'm not surprised any conversation entertains him. Rather, I'm pointing out that it is indeed odd, for a Coronavirus thread. Politics is, and should be, pretty far down the list. Such is the method whether it serves or detracts from the thread. When it comes to the actual virus, just facts help where as politics would confuse and muddle (as is true in thread). -Lon
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That's the reason for all the politics and criticisms of Trump. The entire goal of introducing politics into threads like this is distraction and obfuscation. These guys are professionals in this behavior. They've left evidence of that all over these forums.

If you get your pm's working again I'll send you a lot of evidence on it and show the history of their tactics going back centuries and how those same tactics are used by modern day organizations.
 
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I've seen a whole lot of your posts criticizing Democrats. Wow. I mean this forum is littered with them. You hate them as bad as you do Trump and the republicans. :rotfl:

Did you actually expect me to believe you? I mean you do have an extensive posting history that clearly demonstrates your bias.
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Did you see my thread trashing Hillary Clinton? Hillary Clinton can't rewrite history, but she'll try

Or my thread commending Trump for his stance regarding the Chinese Communist Party? I agree with Trump on China -- Here's why

So as you can see, I am willing to call a spade a spade, and I am willing to give credit where credit is due.
 
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Did you see my thread trashing Hillary Clinton? Hillary Clinton can't rewrite history, but she'll try

Or my thread commending Trump for his stance regarding the Chinese Communist Party? I agree with Trump on China -- Here's why

So as you can see, I am willing to call a spade a spade, and I am willing to give credit where credit is due.
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Yeah, right. Two threads versus how many anti-Trump threads and posts? The balance is just sooooo close to being even.... It must be at least up to 100 to 1 in favor of anti-Trump. That's close. It's amazingly even. :dizzy:
 
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Yeah, right. Two threads versus how many anti-Trump threads and posts? The balance is just sooooo close to being even.... It must be at least up to 100 to 1 in favor of anti-Trump. That's close. It's amazingly even. :dizzy:
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That's because while I do agree with Trump on some issues, I am generally not supportive of his behavior as president. In many ways, he is his own worst enemy.
 
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Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine ‘largely failed’ to improve coronavirus patient survival rates in early, small studies

-- https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...hl2fbwdCda6ZKY


Studies in China, France and Brazil report that these drugs have "largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies. In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster."
 
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Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine ‘largely failed’ to improve coronavirus patient survival rates in early, small studies

-- https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...hl2fbwdCda6ZKY


Studies in China, France and Brazil report that these drugs have "largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies. In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster."
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There is a general tendency for journalists to find some preliminary scientific study, and blow it out of proportion. This predates Corona. A doctor tries something on 4 patients, gets encouraging results- and the next thing you know social media is full of "the magic cure has been found!"
 
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Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine ‘largely failed’ to improve coronavirus patient survival rates in early, small studies

-- https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...hl2fbwdCda6ZKY


Studies in China, France and Brazil report that these drugs have "largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies. In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster."
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Fake news.

Those studies show, from all the information given, that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine were given to patients in those studies by themselves. The doctors using it in real world experience and having great success with it combined it with zinc. And they have said repeatedly that the zinc was the magic sauce. All the hydroxychloroquine did was create a transportation mechanism through the cell wall to get the zinc into the virus. The zinc then stopped the virus replication. Other successful uses of hydroxychloroquine combined it with azithromycin. These articles give no indication of a combined drug regimen. Thus they are nothing but fake news as no doctor, nor Trump, has recommended hydroxychloroquine alone.

The following video demonstrates how the combined treatment works.


Edit: The last part of the fake news is that the article says "high doses". The hydroxychloroquine regimens in use successfully do not use "high doses" they use the same dosage as malaria, rheumatoid arthritis, and lupus treatments use. And patients tolerate those levels of it very well or it wouldn't be used in long term treatments of those chronic diseases.
 
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