justify war

brother Willi

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Originally posted by BillyBob

Hint:

The terrorists aren't gonna back down.


Hint #2:

We better not back down either or else we will all end up dead or speaking Arabic.

However Chileice, you might look good in a burka.........

Billy, you said if i killed your dog and made you watch, you would kill me, not my dog.

BILLY, you killed my cat!!!

you went out of your way, drove of the road, and killed my cat walking along the road.

dont tell me you didnt, you admitted some time ago you have done this, others have admitted doing the same.

please PM me your adress so i can kill you.
nevermind, il find you.


GET THE IDEA???
 

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Originally posted by Chileice


I know I am also going to fall on deaf ears but I cannot help but think Willi is a bit like the prophet crying out in the wilderness and everyone else is plugging their ears and running screaming at the top of their lungs so as no to have to listen.
did you say something?
 

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Originally posted by Knight

Some might even say... "sigh" :sigh:
That would be me! :nono:
 

Rolf Ernst

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Brother Willi-- how can I justify a preemptive war, especially on such threads of an excuse?

Do a google search for "jus belli" At that location, there is a page which researches the long history of the sentiments of nations concerning what the grounds are for a "just war." Consideration is given to the views of both secularists and theologians; and neither of them, in the history of "jus belli" philosophy, approve of what we have been doing in Iraq.

The neocons Bush put in his administration are leading America into a colossal national catastrophe; and don't begin to think this is about WMD or oil. It is about the aim Thomas Barnett spoke of--"decades of war will be necessary to assimilate non-integrated nations into the global world order." Barnett is in great demand on the D.C. talk circuit.
High ranking military and political figures sit before him in rapt wonder as he describes his vision.

Think of it! He sees decades of making war against sovereign nations simply because they must be "assimilated" into the global world order.

To those of you who have scoffed at the "conspiratorialist" idea of "the New world Order":--- "Global World Order," or "global governance" mean the same thing--the new world order; the rule over all nations by the atheistic, socialistic United Nations!

Here is some news for those of you who have yukked it up over the "Conspiritorialist nut cases" who have been warning you about what is NOW just outside YOUR door--when men's motives, mindsets, words, and actions provide irrefutable evidence that they are set upon a certain course, THAT IS not A THEORY!!

You have been yukking it up while they have been executing their plan; and you haven't even taken the little bit of effort it takes to do research on the computer. You will blindly vote for Bush or Kerry, and either one will keep moving into the global world order as swiftly as possible. Either one will sign the FTAA treaty early next year. That will effectively put our national sovereignty in subjection to the multinational interests of nations in this hemisphere. Either one will sign a national draft law before summer, and either will keep the high tech military force moving to bring into subjection every nation that would not otherwise join the global world order.

You scoffers just keep laughing!! Soon, they will be coming for your sons and daughters because war requires fodder for the cannons.
 

elected4ever

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Rolf Ernst
The neocons Bush put in his administration are leading America into a colossal national catastrophe; and don't begin to think this is about WMD or oil. It is about the aim Thomas Barnett spoke of--"decades of war will be necessary to assimilate non-integrated nations into the global world order." Barnett is in great demand on the D.C. talk circuit.

e4e

:up: But of course Im just a conspiricy nutt:juggle: :bang:
 

brother Willi

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Originally posted by Rolf Ernst

Brother Willi-- how can I justify a preemptive war, especially on such threads of an excuse?
i understand
i sure cant justify wars
Jesus never justified wars

i did this thread to prove this to my fellow Christians

how many understand it?

Do a google search for "jus belli" At that location, there is a page which researches the long history of the sentiments of nations concerning what the grounds are for a "just war." Consideration is given to the views of both secularists and theologians; and neither of them, in the history of "jus belli" philosophy, approve of what we have been doing in Iraq.
i cant justify any war
but yes these wars Bush pushed are total insanity


The neocons Bush put in his administration are leading America into a colossal national catastrophe;
no arguement from me
and don't begin to think this is about WMD or oil. It is about the aim Thomas Barnett spoke of--"decades of war will be necessary to assimilate non-integrated nations into the global world order." Barnett is in great demand on the D.C. talk circuit.
High ranking military and political figures sit before him in rapt wonder as he describes his vision.

Think of it! He sees decades of making war against sovereign nations simply because they must be "assimilated" into the global world order.

To those of you who have scoffed at the "conspiratorialist" idea of "the New world Order":--- "Global World Order," or "global governance" mean the same thing--the new world order; the rule over all nations by the atheistic, socialistic United Nations!

Here is some news for those of you who have yukked it up over the "Conspiritorialist nut cases" who have been warning you about what is NOW just outside YOUR door--when men's motives, mindsets, words, and actions provide irrefutable evidence that they are set upon a certain course, THAT IS not A THEORY!!

You have been yukking it up while they have been executing their plan; and you haven't even taken the little bit of effort it takes to do research on the computer. You will blindly vote for Bush or Kerry, and either one will keep moving into the global world order as swiftly as possible. Either one will sign the FTAA treaty early next year. That will effectively put our national sovereignty in subjection to the multinational interests of nations in this hemisphere. Either one will sign a national draft law before summer, and either will keep the high tech military force moving to bring into subjection every nation that would not otherwise join the global world order.

You scoffers just keep laughing!! Soon, they will be coming for your sons and daughters because war requires fodder for the cannons.
i see it
no arguement from me
 

elected4ever

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brother Willi, I don't think pacifism can be justified from scripture. If that is what you are saying, then I think you are wrong but many men have given their lives to secure the right for you to be wrong.

No war sense WW11 has been a legal war in the sense that its legality can be justified constitutionally. All wars that we have fought sense then were to test the technology to see if it could be improved. The goal is to overwhelm the enemy and force compliance with the world system.

One of the last bastions that stand against the new world order is Islam. The United States is the enforcer or policeman that forces compliance. The United Nations is not the New World Order. The New World order is run by the International Bankers and what countries they cannot buy they will use military force to force compliance. The Armed Forces of the United States are the big stick welded like a club to intimidate the non compliant countries.

:e4e:
 

brother Willi

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Originally posted by elected4ever

brother Willi, I don't think pacifism can be justified from scripture. If that is what you are saying, then I think you are wrong but many men have given their lives to secure the right for you to be wrong.

No war sense WW11 has been a legal war in the sense that its legality can be justified constitutionally. All wars that we have fought sense then were to test the technology to see if it could be improved. The goal is to overwhelm the enemy and force compliance with the world system.

One of the last bastions that stand against the new world order is Islam. The United States is the enforcer or policeman that forces compliance. The United Nations is not the New World Order. The New World order is run by the International Bankers and what countries they cannot buy they will use military force to force compliance. The Armed Forces of the United States are the big stick welded like a club to intimidate the non compliant countries.

:e4e:
i see that happening
but can you justify war using the Word of Jesus?

that is what id like someone to do, so far no one has
 

elected4ever

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brother Willi
but can you justify war using the Word of Jesus?

e4e
No more that you can justify not going to war by the same words. We ought not to put words in Jesus's mouth by assigning meaning that is not indicated by those words. No were does Jesus say that it is always wrong to go to war.
 

brother Willi

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Originally posted by elected4ever

brother Willi

e4e
No more that you can justify not going to war by the same words. We ought not to put words in Jesus's mouth by assigning meaning that is not indicated by those words. No were does Jesus say that it is always wrong to go to war.

are these the signs of the end

Matthew 24:6
"You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.

Matthew 24:7
"For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.

Matthew 24:8
"But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

Matthew 24:9
"Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
 
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