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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God and made righteous solely by the obedience of Christ alone, the obedience of one Rom 5:10,19 !
Justification by Faith Alone
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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God and made righteous solely by the obedience of Christ alone, the obedience of one Rom 5:10,19 !
You miss understand. You have to have faith in the knowledge that doing good will be rewarded even though it sure doesn't seem like it. Faith in magic does not save at all.
You must do good to be good. It is just that simple.
People who say faith only are often people who like to be bad, but justify their bad behavior by saying it doesn't matter.
It does matter. It is exactly what matters most.
If that were true the thief on the cross could not have been saved.
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How many times do you have to be told that the thief obeyed?
How many times do you have to see the scriptures but still deny them?
The thief on the cross feared God and was sorry for his sins, and he acknowledged Jesus before others, and he called on Jesus to remember him when he got to his kingdom.
You are as a brainwashed robot that cannot think for himself. You only repeat what false teachers taught you.
The thief on the cross was a condemned sinner.
He never taught a sunday school class, nor did he ever do any kind of good works. He was a thief.
All that he said to Jesus was... "Remember me when you come into your Kingdom".
Nothing was said about him being sorry for his sins.
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Our works are to do what Jesus says. Jesus says fear God, humble yourself, repent, forgive, and call on him.
Those are works. They are light, easy, and not burdensome.
You cannot be saved unless you believe and obey Jesus.
One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Christ? Save yourself and us!” Luke 23:39. But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said,
God accepts those who FEAR HIM.
See Acts 10:35.
“since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve.
The thief HUMBLED HIMSELF AND WAS SORRY FOR HIS. We have to humble ourselves to be saved.
Matthew 18:3 And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
But this man has done nothing wrong.”
The thief acknowledged Jesus before others.
Luke 12:8 "I tell you, whoever publicly acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man will also acknowledge before the angels of God.
Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”
Acts 2:21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'
Luke 23:40-43. Jesus answered him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”
Calling on the name of the Lord to save you is an act of faith. The thief on the cross was justified by faith apart from any works of the law.
As was righteous Abel. You're only stating the obvious.
In the Old Testament as well as the New Testament they were justified by faith.
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I think you know you are in deep trouble.
Just look at what you posted. You said from any works of the law...
Jesus taught the new law. hahahahahahahaha
You have to obey Jesus to be saved...now stay with it.
No one will be saved by obeying Jesus simply because no one can obey Jesus.
No one can do or keep the commandments.
You are a hypocrite with an evil heart.
The commandments and the law are spiritual. They search the desires and the intent of the heart, Hebrews 4:12.
Do you really think that you can stand before a Holy God in your own righteousness? You will perish in the twinkling of an eye.
Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. (1 John 3:7 NKJV)
The only thing that is going to pass in the judgment is the righteousness of Christ.
If you are not found to be "In Christ" in the judgment you will perish.
To be "In Christ" means that you are trusting in His life, His death, His resurrection for your salvation and not yourself.
That is what you say but that is not what John said. Why do you insist on your own opinion over scripture?
And what did John say?
Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. (1 John 3:7 NKJV)
There are two kinds of righteousness.
There is the righteousness of man and there is the righteousness of God.
The righteousness of man does not save, simply because all men are sinners, Romans 3:10 and Romans 3:23.
The righteousness of man fails to reach the standards of the righteousness of God. This is why the righteous man needs a savior just like the sinful man.
Yes, we are saved by God's grace. Over and over all you do is state the obvious.
We are really saved by the righteousness of Christ. Simply because we have no righteousness that saves.