ONLY the unitarian God exists. All other God's are false Gods.
Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God
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Since Jesus is God, you just called Jesus a false God.
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that is God speaking to man
that is Peter speaking
Jesus said my commandments not God's commandments
Jesus didn't say "thus saith the lord" instead he spoke from his authority as God and said my commandments.
and that would be blasphemous
if not for the fact that Jesus is God
This is Jesus speaking as God for God
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
my point is the commandments are God's commandments which Jesus claims are his commandments
therefore Jesus is God
7djengo7
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John, in John 5:18 KJV, states:
We see John, here, NOT quoting, nor recording, any rationale on the part of any Jews as to why they desired to kill Jesus; instead, we see John, himself, stating that it was BECAUSE Jesus had broken the sabbath, and BECAUSE Jesus made Himself equal with God (by saying that God was His Father), that the Jews "sought the more to kill him".
They sought the more to kill Jesus BECAUSE Jesus was making Himself equal with God.
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Indeed, it has not.
Worshiping Jesus is not idolatry.
Catholics are not Christian.
Apple7
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Please don't tell us that you actually thought that you were onto something...
Apple7
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Psalm 110
A declaration of Yahweh to my Lord: Sit at My right hand, until I place Your enemies as Your footstool. Yahweh shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion to rule in the midst of Your enemies. Your people shall have willingness in the day of Your might; in the majesties of holiness; from the womb of the dawn, to You is the dew of Your youth. Yahweh has sworn and will not repent: You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek. The Lord (Adonay) at Your right hand shatters kings in the day of His anger. He shall judge among the nations; He shall fill with dead bodies; He shall shatter heads over much land. He shall drink out of the torrent on the way; therefore, He shall lift up the head.
110.1 declares that Adonay (God The Son) is at Yahweh’s Right Hand (The Holy Spirit).
The Trinity.
110.5 repeats the fact that Adonay is indeed God, and is with the Holy Spirit.
Therefore…God The Father has a God (The Son) and even converses with His God.
Simple Biblical truth…
No, Jesus can't be a false god, because 1. He doesn't lie, 2. He is not god.
Apple7
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Your version of god exists only in your mind.
The verse doesn't nothing for your case.
Yes it is.
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7djengo7
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Of course Jesus doesn't lie, but, just try explaining exactly why you imagine that that fact is even the least bit relevant! It's not. Have fun with that.
"Jesus can't be a false god, because...He is not god."
Oh, OK. So, according to you, Jesus needs to be God in order to be a false God. Brilliant!
Well, it's true.
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Either Jesus lied or he is God
Jesus said my commandments not God's commandments
Jesus didn't say "thus saith the lord" instead he spoke from his authority as God and said my commandments.
and that would be blasphemous
if not for the fact that Jesus is God
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
7djengo7
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So, Apple7 just got done stating the truth that "Worshiping Jesus is not idolatry", and you deny that truth, saying "Yes it is." And then, you turn around and tell me that
According to YOU, then,
Worshiping Jesus IS idolatry,
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Jesus IS NOT a false god.
AND
Jesus IS NOT a false god.
Can you give any example(s) from Scripture in which the object of idolatrous worship is NOT a false god? Of course you can't. Have fun!
Jesus is God!
No it wouldn't be. The law of Moses was a favor given to all Israelites. It certainly is not an insult/blasphemy of god. Besides the tribe of Judah which he is from is supposed to enforce Israelite law, being kings and such. He claim it as his law, because he can enforce it through the power of god.
No lying here, but denying humanness here either.
YHWH is the only god who doesn't falsify. Since YHWH is not any of creation and is invisible; worshipping Jesus as YHWH is a futile, and vain act. Vain because you think it makes you special.
7djengo7
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Well, what's true?
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