If we were able to graph the spread of covid in America through today we would find a falling death rate that began before the vaccine came out and would have continued after the vaccine came out. The vaccine, like masks, had no verifiable effect on the covid death rate, even though democrat lugs continue to fan fears of covid in efforts to keep people under the thumb of misguided leftist democrat officials.Even in deep-red South Carolina, ninety-three per cent of senior citizens have received at least one dose. In Nebraska, ninety-five per cent have, and the numbers in Idaho and Florida are ninety per cent and ninety-eight per cent, respectively. There was no mass campaign to combat disinformation among the aged, no detectable conversion of anti-vaxxer senior citizens to pro-science liberals. “They have the same worries about the vaccine, but when they did the risk-benefit it was just so clear to them that the risks were so severe,” Mollyann Brodie, who runs public-opinion surveys on the pandemic for the Kaiser Family Foundation, told me. There is a dark irony in this. For months, conservative television hosts have fulminated to a largely older audience about the madness of the vaccine campaign: Tucker Carlson has scrunched up his face and said the word “Fauci” with Old Testament menace; a renegade ex-Times reporter named Alex Berenson has rattled off statistics in a rhythm that sounds designed to perplex. Through it all, this older audience has tuned in loyally, from armchairs in Idaho and South Carolina, while already fully vaccinated—their cells displaying the telltale protein piece, antibodies formed and ready. They have taken the campaigns on television neither literally nor seriously; they have understood that it is for show.
An Uncertain New Phase of the Pandemic, in Which Cases Surge but Deaths Do Not
With the Delta variant, people now have to make different calculations about personal risk. The problem is that the parameters are not yet fully known.www.newyorker.com
Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?
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expos4ever
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Liar, or idiot, or both.
This is either a demonstration of severe mental impairment on your part and / or a a demonstration that your have no moral standards at all when it comes to truth-telling.
The CDC does not track breakthrough cases, giving gullible people the impression the breakthrough cases are minimal when they are not. If the CDC reported all the facts like they are supposed to then only the most decidedly deluded could justly claim the vaccines are effective.Several studies, including ones referenced in the CDC’s presentation, have shown that vaccines remain effective against the Delta variant, particularly against hospitalization and death. That has held true in the real world: About 97 percent of those recently hospitalized by the virus were unvaccinated, the CDC said. But in counties where vaccination rates are low, cases are rising fast, and deaths are also on the rise.
In the United Kingdom, the Delta variant became the main form of the virus in May, when a large share of the population had already been vaccinated. Three months later, virus cases are on a downward trend after reaching a level almost as high as the country’s highest-ever peak in January. Deaths have not reached anywhere near previous peaks, a sign that the U.K. vaccine rollout, which prioritized residents by age, protected many of the country’s most vulnerable by the time the Delta variant fueled a surge.
As Covid Cases Rise All Over U.S., Lower Vaccination Rates Point to Worse Outcomes (Published 2021)
Counties with low vaccination rates continue to bear the brunt of the highly contagious Delta variant, and some are seeing their highest case rates of the entire pandemic.www.nytimes.com
It's just so strange that somewhere around ~98% of hospitalizations and deaths from COVID-19 are among the unvaccinated, don't you think? At all?
expos4ever
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Liar - you do not even have a shred of evidence for the statement in bold.
expos4ever
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Liar.
You can call me a liar without submitting any support to back up your hateful allegation. But why don't you instead post the total numbers of covid deaths this year since the vaccine came out and prove the vaccine caused the number of covid deaths to fall? Did herd immunity cause the number of covid deaths to fall? Have any covid deaths been attributed to the Delta Variant and if so how many?
I asked you to prove the vaccine and not herd immunity caused the number of covid deaths to fall and you call me a liar. I am not a liar just because I asked you a question you failed to answer.
We need to find a way to determine if the number of deaths from covid is falling due to the vaccine or due to increasing herd immunity. This is important. Don't make light of it.
Sigh. That just shows we are handling the spreaders all wrong. They should all be stuck in holding facilities and denied medical treatment. They are no different than women and men who sleep around and then snuff out the unborn life they willingly created.
I said the CDC does not track breakthrough cases as it should. Here is proof:
JUST IN: 111,000+ Vaccine Breakthrough Cases Identified in US - More Than **10X** CDC's Count When They Stopped Tracking in May | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila
According to data Bloomberg collected from 35 states, 111,748 vaccine breakthrough cases have been identified in the US through the end of July.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
This is 10 TIMES the CDC’s count when they stopped tracking breakthrough cases in May.
Fauci and pals created covid in a lab in order to test potential vaccines being developed by pharmaceutical companies they were heavily invested in. After covid came out Fauci denied involvement and promoted his favorite vaccines over other tried and tested drugs that, unlike his newly designed drugs, were proving to be effective against covid. Now Fauci and pals want to jail anyone refusing to take their untested, ineffective, and dangerous shot as mandated by the increasingly more despotic partisan democrat government.
Really? Who told you that 98% of the covid hospitalizations and deaths are among the unvaccinated? Fauci? Hillary? Biden? AOC? Adam Schiff? Chuck Schumer? MSNBC reporters? Here is a 'second opinion:'
CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated
The CDC data published Friday was based on 469 cases of Covid associated with multiple summer events and large public gatherings in July in Massachusetts.
ok doser
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On the remote chance that you were honest when you said fairly recently that you had returned to Christ, I will pray that God turns your heart from the hate that you still seem to so willingly embrace.
Right Divider
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You could not possibly be more wrong. But you certainly are evil.
I certainly understand and share your frustration, but your proposed solution is clearly unethical.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
What percentage of leftists do you think are as ignorant as rusha is about the fact that covid is being spread by Joe Biden's decision to release covid infected illegal immigrants throughout the country? That the demographics most under-vaccinated are blacks and Hispanics?
Perhaps 0.1%. Who else have you heard saying such a thing?
I would have thought you'd approve of blacks and Hispanics being under-vaccinated, given that you boast about being unvaccinated yourself and approve of others on this forum who refuse vaccination. But of course, this is just more of your usual blatant hypocrisy and race-baiting.