Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?

Arthur Brain

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I never specifically said "he's in hell". But if he rejected God's salvation, that is his destination per God's Word.
Is this another place that you will claim to be a Christ, but reject God's Word?
Don't tell me, let me guess.... you know better than God.
What do you think "hell" is? I don't believe in an eternal place of fire or some sort of torment and neither did many of the early church. Still, do explain your understanding of it.
 

Arthur Brain

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Of course. No Christian worth his salt would think otherwise.
Oh, so you think "hell" is a literal place of fire then. No metaphor or figurative language in regards to such then, okay. Thanks for the bluntness at least if not the content.
 

marke

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You are a heartless jerk. And you probably do not know the difference between a differential equation and a bag of pork rinds.

Oh and yes: you are an habitual liar - as if that is news to anyone.
I do have trouble understanding aspects of differential equations. For example, I cannot see how differential equations can be relied upon to formulate reliable conclusions to complex problems in evolution.
http://reports-archive.adm.cs.cmu.edu/anon/2017/CMU-CS-17-117.pdf ... the question of how to best prove the remaining properties of differential equations. One way to handle ODEs axiomatically is to introduce rules that replace them with their corresponding solutions [Pla08]. For example, the differential solution axiom for dL allows one to axiomatically replace a (constant) differential equation with its solution [Pla17a], which generalizes to any differential equation solvable in polynomial real arithmetic. However, such methods are not scalable for two reasons. Firstly, most differential equation systems do not have closed-form solutions. Secondly, even if solutions exist, they quickly involve undecidable real arithmetic [Ric69], making them difficult to reason about in a deductive proof.
 
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marke

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He was a genius and where did he state his intention to disprove God exactly? What a nice guy you are, eh?
The genius was a babbling fool when it came to understanding God and the origin of the universe.


From his desk at Cambridge University and beyond, Stephen Hawking sent his mind spiraling into the deepest depths of black holes, radiating across the endless cosmos and swirling back billions of years to witness time's first breath. He viewed creation as a scientist, and when he was called to discuss creation's biggest puzzles — Where do we come from? What is our purpose? Are we alone? — he answered as a scientist, often to the chagrin of religious critics.

In Stephen Hawking's final book "Brief Answers to Big Questions," published Tuesday (Oct. 16) by Bantam Books, the professor begins a series of 10 intergalactic essays by addressing life's oldest and most religiously fraught question of all: Is there a God? [Big Bang to Civilization: 10 Amazing Origin Events]

Hawking's answer — compiled from decades of prior interviews, essays and speeches with the help of his family, colleagues and the Steven Hawking Estate — should come as no surprise to readers who have followed his work, er, religiously.

"I think the universe was spontaneously created out of nothing, according to the laws of science," Hawking, who died in March, wrote. "If you accept, as I do, that the laws of nature are fixed, then it doesn't take long to ask: What role is there for God?"
 

Arthur Brain

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The genius was a babbling fool when it came to understanding God and the origin of the universe.


From his desk at Cambridge University and beyond, Stephen Hawking sent his mind spiraling into the deepest depths of black holes, radiating across the endless cosmos and swirling back billions of years to witness time's first breath. He viewed creation as a scientist, and when he was called to discuss creation's biggest puzzles — Where do we come from? What is our purpose? Are we alone? — he answered as a scientist, often to the chagrin of religious critics.

In Stephen Hawking's final book "Brief Answers to Big Questions," published Tuesday (Oct. 16) by Bantam Books, the professor begins a series of 10 intergalactic essays by addressing life's oldest and most religiously fraught question of all: Is there a God? [Big Bang to Civilization: 10 Amazing Origin Events]

Hawking's answer — compiled from decades of prior interviews, essays and speeches with the help of his family, colleagues and the Steven Hawking Estate — should come as no surprise to readers who have followed his work, er, religiously.

"I think the universe was spontaneously created out of nothing, according to the laws of science," Hawking, who died in March, wrote. "If you accept, as I do, that the laws of nature are fixed, then it doesn't take long to ask: What role is there for God?"
The God who you believe has him now in a place of fiery torment? He was a human being Marke, flawed as much as you and me. Certainly had a sense of humour though...
 

marke

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Well, basic and simple kinda sums your post up really.

That isn't an atheist's "starting point". In that essence, someone who doesn't believe in the likelihood of a deity isn't 'rejecting the existence of the creator', they don't believe that it's likely that there's one to reject.

I could care less about yours and other's hang ups with wearing masks. I still wear mine and even if the difference is marginal it's nothing to continually whine about.
Americans have the liberty to wear masks or not, in spite of what totalitarian fascist leftists wrongly think to the contrary.
 

marke

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Thought you might have had something a bit more recent is all. So what if he was wrong? He was a human being, kinda goes with the territory. Sure doesn't deserve all of this 'he's in "hell" garbage' because of it.
If Hawking is now in hell it is not because he was wrong about the big bang, but because he refused to repent of his sins and go to Jesus for forgiveness.
 

marke

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Oh, so you think "hell" is a literal place of fire then. No metaphor or figurative language in regards to such then, okay. Thanks for the bluntness at least if not the content.
God allows sinners to gamble there is no hell, but God also predicts where rebels against God will end up at the end.
 

marke

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The God who you believe has him now in a place of fiery torment? He was a human being Marke, flawed as much as you and me. Certainly had a sense of humour though...
The God I believe in has no desire to see sinners reject God and go to hell, but He is powerless to stop them from doing so if that is what they choose.
 

Arthur Brain

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The God I believe in has no desire to see sinners reject God and go to hell, but He is powerless to stop them from doing so if that is what they choose.
So, the God you believe in is powerless to prevent that which He doesn't want to happen? Probably fodder for another thread really but telling nonetheless.
 

marke

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Do you have any understanding of empathy? Compassion?
I think so. For example, I grieve over the way the leftist fascist Biden government is persecuting patriotic Americans and taking them prisoner to be woefully mistreated because of democrat hatred of America and the Constitiution. How can democrat be so heartless and cruel?
 

marke

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So, the God you believe in is powerless to prevent that which He doesn't want to happen? Probably fodder for another thread really but telling nonetheless.
In spite of widespread ignorance to the contrary, God cannot do some things. For example, He cannot lie and He cannot make sinners repent of their sins and come to Jesus for salvation.
 

Arthur Brain

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In spite of widespread ignorance to the contrary, God cannot do some things. For example, He cannot lie and He cannot make sinners repent of their sins and come to Jesus for salvation.
Doesn't every knee bow ultimately? Doesn't everyone come to know the truth? If there's an all powerful and loving God then your limitations on what He can do can be discarded.
 

Arthur Brain

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I think so. For example, I grieve over the way the leftist fascist Biden government is persecuting patriotic Americans and taking them prisoner to be woefully mistreated because of democrat hatred of America and the Constitiution. How can democrat be so heartless and cruel?
Heck, if you think you're being 'persecuted' then grow some thicker skin. You aren't. That the ongoing in America in regards to Trump and the asinine 'fraud' allegations are a complete laughing stock is hardly the same thing.
 

way 2 go

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If the vaccine is so effective, why does it matter that some people haven't gotten it? Reminds me of masks which simultaneously work and don't work at the same time, depending on whether cases are up or down on a given day. Face it, dude, we're onto the fake science scam/cult.
leftist science can't tell male from female but they want you to trust them .
 
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