You can fix lying and corruption in government healthcare. Fire Fauci.
Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?
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Okay, so first of all, I apologize for my last post. The thick headed conspiracy theorists on this thread have gotten me to a point where I really don't even want to be here on TOL at all and I definitely have lost all interest in discussing this particular topic. None of that has anything to do with you and I shouldn't have responded to your post the way I did.
Having said that, I cannot imagine what it is your searching for that's so difficult to find.
United States
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Russia
Russia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Russia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Those links will show you a graph of the daily deaths from COVID in the US and then in first country that popped into my mind that isn't an ally of the US and therefore hasn't had access to these vaccines (at least not in the numbers of doses that would be needed to have the pandemic under control the way we and other western countries do.)
Indonesia
Indonesia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Indonesia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Iran
Iran COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Iran Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Then look at nations who have the vaccines...
France
France COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
France Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Italy
Italy COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Now, to be fair, that really doesn't give anywhere near the whole picture because vaccines aren't the only thing that effect the spread of the virus. There are other factors, such as natural immunity, population density, health care infrastructure, etc. And that's not to mention the fact that all the numbers are inflated in various ways for all kinds of political reasons that make the numbers questionable in the first place. BUT - Ignoring the untrustworthy numbers for the time being - there are, for example, tens of millions of people in the US (I think the number is much much higher than that actually) who have had COVID and recovered from it and so far more than the 48% who have been vaccinated are immune to the disease and so we may be very close to herd immunity, if we haven't already achieved it in this country. It is, therefore, probably not even possible to do a true apples to apples comparison between countries based solely on vaccine usage.
Clete
P.S. Now, if I disappear from this thread, its only because this topic now bores me to tears and its a waste of time anyway.
expos4ever
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You know that the VAERS systems is not reliable for establishing the dangers posed by the vaccine. From their own %$&?%$! site:
While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable.
Since you have to know this by now, please tell us why you insist on misrepresenting the truth?
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I tell people who hesitate to take the vaccine, "Don't take it if you are not comfortable with it and if you are not frightened by all the propaganda trying to scare people into thinking if they do not get vaccinated they will die of covid."
Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are mRNA vaccines, which contain tiny fragments of the genetic material known as “messenger ribonucleic acid”. And if social media is anything to go by, some people are concerned these vaccines can affect their genetic code.
Here’s why the chances of that happening are next to zero and some pointers to how the myth came about...
Here’s why the chances of that happening are next to zero and some pointers to how the myth came about...
Can the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA COVID Vaccines Affect Your Genetic Code?
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are set to become the mainstay of Australia’s COVID-19 vaccine rollout as the year progresses, according to recently released government projections. From September, up to an average of 1.3m doses of the Pfizer vaccine plus another 125,000 doses of the yet-to-be ap
scitechdaily.com
GOP Utah Governor Blames Right-Wing Media for Vaccine Hesitancy
"That kind of stuff is dangerous, it's damaging, and it's killing people," Cox said.
www.newsweek.com
way 2 go
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This is the game Republicans play: If there's a Democrat in the White House, we can't have anything good. Everything has to be bad, and if anything was good before the Democrat became president, it is now bad. The vaccine was good before the election when Trump was still president, but now that Biden is president it is bad. Same goes for literally everything else, e.g., we can't have an infrastructure deal, and if we do, Biden is bankrupting the country, etc. and so on...Fox News contributor Jonah Goldberg recalled Laura Ingraham on her show in November saying “the stunning success of President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed caught team apocalypse totally off guard. Don’t you love it?”
But “now she and many other right-wing media figures are engaged in fearmongering over the alleged dangers of vaccines we wouldn’t have, were it not for Trump,” Goldberg added.
Fox News Personality Reminds 'Fearmongering' Ingraham What She Once Said About Vaccines
Jonah Goldberg compared Laura Ingraham's current vaccination skepticism with her Operation Warp Speed cheerleading when Donald Trump was president.www.huffpost.com
In the case of the vaccine, Republicans would rather see people get sick and die rather than see people get the vaccine and live. If too many people don't get the vaccine, they can blame Biden for a poor rollout of the vaccine. If the numbers of sick and dying go up, they can blame Biden for that too. Nothing can be good and everything has to be bad or at least has to be made to look bad because there is a Democrat in the White House. If there's a Democrat in the White House, Republicans are traitors to everyone including themselves. That's how they roll.
It may be the fetal tissue contamination of the modern covid 'vaccine' which causes dangerous blood clots. We need more info from further testing.Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are mRNA vaccines, which contain tiny fragments of the genetic material known as “messenger ribonucleic acid”. And if social media is anything to go by, some people are concerned these vaccines can affect their genetic code.
Here’s why the chances of that happening are next to zero and some pointers to how the myth came about...
Can the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA COVID Vaccines Affect Your Genetic Code?
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are set to become the mainstay of Australia’s COVID-19 vaccine rollout as the year progresses, according to recently released government projections. From September, up to an average of 1.3m doses of the Pfizer vaccine plus another 125,000 doses of the yet-to-be apscitechdaily.com
No republican or democrat can deny the bad effects the covid vaccine has been having on people.GOP Utah Governor Blames Right-Wing Media for Vaccine Hesitancy
"That kind of stuff is dangerous, it's damaging, and it's killing people," Cox said.
Democrats have become the spiritually dead and doomed party.
The word “God” is nowhere to be found in the Democratic national platform this year, an omission Republicans have seized upon as a failure of their opponents to appreciate the divine’s place in American history
The people who needlessly died of covid in NY rest homes last year don't need to blame a political party. They need to blame Cuomo and his assorted mob of misguided supporters.
Yes, no matter who promoted the experimental vaccine, it turned out to be dangerous and should not be taken before testing is completed and the FDA has at least approved it.
Smallpox would still be with us today with your false information:
Fauci: Smallpox wouldn’t have been eradicated with today’s ‘false information’
Anthony Fauci said on Saturday that he thinks smallpox and polio would still be spreading in the U.S. if today’s “false information” were present then.”If you look at the extraordi…
thehill.com
The world would likely have never seen the covid-19 virus if not for Fauci funding the change of function research in deadly viruses to test the effectiveness of vaccines developed through manipulation of fetal tissue DNA.Smallpox would still be with us today with your false information:
Fauci: Smallpox wouldn’t have been eradicated with today’s ‘false information’
Anthony Fauci said on Saturday that he thinks smallpox and polio would still be spreading in the U.S. if today’s “false information” were present then.”If you look at the extraordi…
The Wuhan Lab and the Gain-of-Function Disagreement - FactCheck.org
A disagreement between Republican Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci has put $600,000 of U.S. grant money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology back into the spotlight, while making "gain-of-function" research a household term -- all amid calls for more investigation into the origins of SARS-CoV-2.