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Fox News contributor Jonah Goldberg called out the network’s prime-time personality Laura Ingraham for “fearmongering” over COVID-19 vaccines.

Goldberg, in a column for the Los Angeles Times this week, said vaccine skepticism and hysteria from conservatives over President Joe Biden’s door-to-door vaccination drive was “bewildering.”

“When Donald Trump was president, Operation Warp Speed was an own-the-libs triumph,” he wrote, referencing the Trump White House program to accelerate the development and production of shots to mitigate the coronavirus pandemic.

Goldberg, editor-in-chief for The Dispatch, recalled Ingraham on her show in November saying “the stunning success of President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed caught team apocalypse totally off guard. Don’t you love it?”

But “now she and many other right-wing media figures are engaged in fearmongering over the alleged dangers of vaccines we wouldn’t have, were it not for Trump,” Goldberg added.

 

marke

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Fox News contributor Jonah Goldberg called out the network’s prime-time personality Laura Ingraham for “fearmongering” over COVID-19 vaccines.

Goldberg, in a column for the Los Angeles Times this week, said vaccine skepticism and hysteria from conservatives over President Joe Biden’s door-to-door vaccination drive was “bewildering.”

“When Donald Trump was president, Operation Warp Speed was an own-the-libs triumph,” he wrote, referencing the Trump White House program to accelerate the development and production of shots to mitigate the coronavirus pandemic.

Goldberg, editor-in-chief for The Dispatch, recalled Ingraham on her show in November saying “the stunning success of President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed caught team apocalypse totally off guard. Don’t you love it?”

But “now she and many other right-wing media figures are engaged in fearmongering over the alleged dangers of vaccines we wouldn’t have, were it not for Trump,” Goldberg added.

Do you believe women should not be told of the risks the vaccine poses to pregnant women? Would you consider informed consent wrong if it causes women to fear the bad effects the vaccine poses to pregnant women?

The Epoch Times interviewed Sarah Absher, a registered nurse who worked in the field for 8 years but quit this spring and decided to volunteer with AFLDS after what she witnessed. She expressed her passion for the “medical freedom fight” and offered previously unseen materials to support her claims.
She began by introducing herself: “I love being a nurse and had the same concerns as Dr. Gold when we saw what was going on.”
Absher worked through the pandemic up until March 17 of this year. She said she hoped that things would change after the election, but when the big vaccine push came, she knew she couldn’t in good conscience stick with the common narrative on COVID-19: “Part of our job is to gather informed consent. With these vaccine trials, they’re not offering informed consent. They say it’s safe for pregnant women but pregnant women were excluded from the trials.”
 

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Anyone remember the Swine flu? The US decided they needed to vaccinate against it. So they started vaccinating people. When the death toll from vaccination reached 25 deaths the vaccination program was canceled. Fast forward to today. The last VAERS death toll I've seen was more than 9000 people, and we know that these events are greatly underreported. And how is government reacting? They are forcing the issue and going to vaccinate kids by coercion. Kids are rarely affected by the corona virus. They are, by far, the least affected part of the population.

So why when the US government once counted lives of enough importance that when 25 people had died a vaccination program was killed in the middle of a media and government panic about the swine flu, are 9000+ deaths considered to be not worth mentioning and they are going to coerce little kids into being vaccinated?

The morality displayed by the government is at polar opposite ends. In one instance the lives of innocents are protected, and in the other the lives of innocents are ignored for the survival rate for the coronavirus is 99%. And that's with all the medical malpractice of suppressing viable treatments and having as a "standard of care" non treatment until people become very ill.
 

Arthur Brain

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Another sad indictment of the nuttiness that is so often prevalent with the far right. The sad thing is, some folk will actually buy into this clowns rhetoric.

 

marke

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Another sad indictment of the nuttiness that is so often prevalent with the far right. The sad thing is, some folk will actually buy into this clowns rhetoric.

What is really embarrassing is how government officials keep pushing masking mandates after science has proven them to have little beneficial effect on slowing the spread of covid and after government gurus have already said that if you are vaccinated or have recovered from covid then you do not need to wear masks.
 

Arthur Brain

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What is really embarrassing is how government officials keep pushing masking mandates after science has proven them to have little beneficial effect on slowing the spread of covid and after government gurus have already said that if you are vaccinated or have recovered from covid then you do not need to wear masks.
Well, no. What's embarrassing is folk like Robin Bullock spouting said conspiracy garbage and those on the far right who endorse it and buy into it.
 

marke

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Well, no. What's embarrassing is folk like Robin Bullock spouting said conspiracy garbage and those on the far right who endorse it and buy into it.
I agree with you that Robin Bullock seems to be a quack, like so many religious people in the world today. But I will not condemn the man I know nothing about and I do not think criticizing him helps your case for suggesting the government is justified to force all Americans to take the vaccine, including pregnant women who are at great risk from the vaccine.
 

Arthur Brain

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I agree with you that Robin Bullock seems to be a quack, like so many religious people in the world today. But I will not condemn the man I know nothing about and I do not think criticizing him helps your case for suggesting the government is justified to force all Americans to take the vaccine, including pregnant women who are at great risk from the vaccine.
He doesn't "seem to be a quack", he absolutely is one. Where is America forcing everyone to take the vaccine exactly?
 

marke

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He doesn't "seem to be a quack", he absolutely is one. Where is America forcing everyone to take the vaccine exactly?
You can call him a quack. I call Fauci a quack. That makes us even. You can think the government encourages Americans to make their own choices about their health decisions, but that sort of feel-good myth is not actually true to facts under the fascist socialist democrat Biden regime.
 

Arthur Brain

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You can call him a quack. I call Fauci a quack. That makes us even. You can think the government encourages Americans to make their own choices about their health decisions, but that sort of feel-good myth is not actually true to facts under the fascist socialist democrat Biden regime.
I'm calling the guy a quack because he absolutely is one, an absolute nutcase. Simple as that.
 

marke

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I'm calling the guy a quack because he absolutely is one, an absolute nutcase. Simple as that.
I will not object to you expressing your opinion about other people's religions. I express my opinions about the demonic Muslim religion all the time and criticize the devils leading blind Muslims to worship within the blind Muslim 'faith.'
 

Arthur Brain

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I will not object to you expressing your opinion about other people's religions. I express my opinions about the demonic Muslim religion all the time and criticize the devils leading blind Muslims to worship within the blind Muslim 'faith.'
I'm not 'expressing my opinion about other people's religions' here anyway. I'm simply calling Robin Bullock a quack because he absolutely is one, a bonafide nut. If you want to go on about Muslims then this ain't the thread for it.
 

marke

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I'm not 'expressing my opinion about other people's religions' here anyway. I'm simply calling Robin Bullock a quack because he absolutely is one, a bonafide nut. If you want to go on about Muslims then this ain't the thread for it.
This is not the thread for judging some quack's religion but it is the thread for condemning the lying leftist quack Anthony Fauci for his eggregious lies to Congress and the American people.
 

Arthur Brain

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This is not the thread for judging some quack's religion but it is the thread for condemning the lying leftist quack Anthony Fauci for his eggregious lies to Congress and the American people.
It actually isn't but tangents on threads are fair enough. What lies to Congress would you be referring to?
 

marke

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It actually isn't but tangents on threads are fair enough. What lies to Congress would you be referring to?
You are not alone. Millions of Americans are ignorant of the fact that Fauci lied to Congress, more than once. Here is one example:

The White House directed the National Institutes of Health to cancel funding for a project studying how coronaviruses spread from bats to people, the government's top infectious disease expert said Tuesday.
“Why was it canceled? It was canceled because the NIH was told to cancel it," said Anthony Fauci, director of the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, in response to a question during a House Energy & Commerce Hearing. "I don’t know the reason, but we were told to cancel it.”
 
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