Do you consider this day or date a holy-day?
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Today is Rishon, Aviv 16.
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Do you consider this day or date a holy-day?
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The celebration of the resurrection/ ascention of the Christ to the right hand of GOD.Today is Rishon, Aviv 16.
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The celebration of the resurrection/ ascention of the Christ to the right hand of GOD.
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The scriptures say there is only one God and He is the Father.
The scriptures say Jesus only does what the Father does; and he only says what the Father says; and when you see him you can say you see the Father. They are never separate or different. They are one and one even means the same.
Just because you haven't understood it yet doesn't make it not true.The trinity doctrine says they are three different and separate Persons that are together as one. That doctrine cannot be correct. When that doctrine cannot defend itself it is said that it is not explainable.
If it is not explainable then it cannot be defended.
It's not a contradiction, it is a paradox.It is the Lord Jesus who came with a new covenant and gave freedom.
Hold that thought, because you now just rightly went against the trinity doctrine which says they are separate and distinct/different. The trinity doctrine contradicts itself.
I gave you one scripture that says the Lord is the Spirit when speaking of Jesus. I can give you more.
Jesus is the Spirit because he is the Spirit.
How do you explain this verses for example, if Jesus isn't God:
John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
How do you explain these verses for example, if they are not separate?:
John 8:18
I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me."
Jesus was quoting old testament scripture. It looks like God forsakes us when we suffer and die.Matthew 27:46
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").
Just because you haven't understood it yet doesn't make it not true. It's not a contradiction, it is a paradox.
You can give me all the scripture you like.
Huh? Jesus is God.
Yes that's right and as you also said: "The scriptures say there is only one God and He is the Father."
So now you can see that the trinity is true, otherwise it is you who is contradicting yourself.
Now your mixing definitions of words to support your theory.There are three and the three are one.
One even means 'same'.
Jesus said 'forsaking ME' because that is what He meant. Jesus had been forsaken by God, because He had become sin and God can not have anything to do with sin. Unless you think Jesus misspoke of course but then in your mind Jesus would have made an error?Jesus was quoting old testament scripture. It looks like God forsakes us when we suffer and die. It only looks like it but is not the case.
No maybe about it I am 100% right. It is you who doubts.Maybe you are the one who doesn't understand?
After I was saved I tried to debate someone who was against the trinity doctrine. I realized I believed in something without checking the scriptures. I realized I couldn't defend that false doctrine.
Jesus is God the Father come in the flesh as a Son.
Now your mixing definitions of words to support your theory. Jesus said 'forsaking ME' because that is what He meant. Jesus had been forsaken by God, because He had become sin and God can not have anything to do with sin. Unless you think Jesus misspoke of course but then in your mind Jesus would have made an error? No maybe about it I am 100% right. It is you who doubts.
Well as a new Christian you should have realised that you knew less than most other Christians. Of course you couldn't defend the trinity from someone versed with a bunch of arguments determined to persuade you.
Oh I see so you think Jesus was only talking to Himself throughout His ministry? Sound like you think Jesus was mad?
I know let change the scripture to fit your theory;
Matthew 6
Our Father in me, hallowed be my name, my kingdom come, my will be done,
Or is it:
Our Father in Jesus, hallowed be God's name inside Jesus, God's kingdom which is Jesus' come, God's will which is actually Jesus' be done,
???
I have a powerful testimony.
As for Jesus suffering and dying, we all feel like God has forsaken us when we suffer and die.
God really came as a Man and didn't pretend.
Yes, fully man but also fully God.
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John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
Death for some is most welcome. Perhaps you have never really suffered? I wish I could die every day but must carry on for the Gospels' sake and for God's will in my life, otherwise I would have topped myself years ago.
Yes, fully man but also fully God.