Dear Timotheos,
That printed out twice (my last post). I can delete it if you like. Just let me know. Now for ECT. See Rev. 20:12, 'And I saw the dead, small and great...and death and hell (and the sea) and they were delivered up, and they were judged according to their works (faith and love included). And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.' See the actual verses in the KJV Bible. The New KJV isn't worth the paper it's printed on, IMO. Yes, even those who die are in danger of the lake of fire, so there is ECT.
Also, you will notice in Luke 16:24, "and he cried, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he might dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue ; for I am tormented in this flame." See the verse. It also means that ECT is real. If you think you're going to sin your butt of and get off with just dying an earthly death, you are very wrong. It's tricky, but you've got to think about it.
God Keep You From The Evil One,
MichaelC
Luke 16:24 doesn't say that the torment is eternal, therefore it doesn't prove that ECT is real. The parable is not talking about the final punishment. If you think that death is "getting off" free, you are mistaken. BTW, I don't think that I can "sin my butt of and get off with dying an earthly death". The two possibilities, according to the Bible are "eternal life" or "death".