you asked if ECT was scriptural
I gave you a scripture
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And the scripture you gave did not say that there is eternal conscious torment. You read your belief into that scripture. "the smoke of their torment rises forever" is not the same thing as "they are tormented forever". Read other scriptures that say "its smoke shall rise forever". Isaiah 34:10. This describes the complete destruction of Edom.
For my sword has drunk its fill in the heavens;
behold, it descends for judgment upon
Edom,
upon
the people I have devoted to destruction.
6 The Lord has a sword; it is sated with blood;
it is gorged with fat,
with the blood of lambs and goats,
with the fat of the kidneys of rams.
For the Lord has a sacrifice in Bozrah,
a great slaughter in the land of Edom.
7 Wild oxen shall fall with them,
and young steers with the mighty bulls.
Their land shall drink its fill of blood,
and their soil shall be gorged with fat.
8 For the Lord has a day of vengeance,
a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.
9 And the streams of Edom shall be turned into pitch,
and her soil into sulfur;
her land shall become burning pitch.
10
Night and day it shall not be quenched;
its smoke shall go up forever.
Isaiah uses the same language to describe complete destruction. So when you see the phrase "the smoke rises forever", it means complete destruction. John of Patmos was familiar with Isaiah and used Isaiah's wording to describe complete destruction.
The Bible doesn't say one thing in the first 65 books and then completely reverse itself in the last book. Death and destruction is always said to be fate of those who will not repent. The Book of Revelation doesn't reverse that.
I understand your frustration. You just can't get the Bible to say what you want it to say. You firmly believe that the wicked will go to hell when they die where they will be tormented alive forever. But you can't find the passages in the Bible that actually say this. So you strike out at me instead.
