This link teaches that water baptism is something a believer should not do, according to MAD doctrine....they view it as a work of the law.
http://graceambassadors.com/tradition/should-i-be-water-baptized
So, I think it's safe to say that one doctrine of MAD is that water baptism is not for believers today.
Since it doesn't seem like anyone is really reading this stuff anyway....I'll stop now. Regards.
As am I, just because we do not post does not mean the conversation is not edifying. Please continue...
Article on MAD here from a mainstream dispensationalist point of view:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110515...les/ff92e8f95e2e0887d2468156498ba416-163.html
Oh....sorry GR and Steko....didn't see your posts there. Maybe I'll post a couple more.
MAD people don't think that the church started at Pentecost, are not in favor of speaking in tongues and are very skeptical of Pentecostals in general.
I don't blame them though...having seen so many abuses in churches myself.
http://graceambassadors.com/midacts/did-the-church-begin-at-pentecost
Nick's point was that there were different sets of "good news" preached at different times throughout the Bible, thus there were different gospels at different times.So what Nick? Jesus hadn't died yet. Why would they preach something that hadn't happend? They preached the kingdom of heaven was at hand because it was - JESUS WAS THERE!
That's kind of a big deal.
I'll go read it. I assume that you are starting it somewhere else because cessationism is not a MAD doctrine?
At least I hope not. We'll see.
That's a fallacy. MAD teaches that it is not necessary for salvation, but MAD does not teach that it should never be done. Some MAD adherents may teach that, but they don't have any Scripture to support that view.This link teaches that water baptism is something a believer should not do, according to MAD doctrine....they view it as a work of the law.
http://graceambassadors.com/tradition/should-i-be-water-baptized
So, I think it's safe to say that one doctrine of MAD is that water baptism is not for believers today.
Actually Paul states, three different times, in Romans 4: 1, 12, and 16, that Abraham is also our father, as well as of those who are of the law.MAD adherents draw a clear distinction between Israel and the Church. Abraham is not their father. This is a view that I agree with.
http://graceambassadors.com/midacts/abraham-father-of-us-all
MAD people believe that Paul preached a different gospel message than the other Apostles.
MAD adherents draw a clear distinction between Israel and the Church.
Abraham is not their father. This is a view that I agree with.
This is a false view of Pauline, NT teaching.
This is Peter's gospel:
1) Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. (Acts 10:43; 1 Peter 1:10-12, 2:24, 3:18)
2) He was buried and raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures. (Acts 10:40; 1 Peter 1:3, 1:21)
3) He now reigns from the right hand of God, and will reign until all his enemies have been destroyed. (Acts 2:30, 3:21; 1 Peter 3:22)
4) Then comes the resurrection when he will return to the earth and raise the souls who sleep. Those who are in Christ will be raised with imperishable bodies, and all will be judged. (1 Peter 1:3-4, 4:5)
5) Then comes the end. He will deliver the kingdom of God to the Father after destroying every rule, authority, and power. (1 Peter 1:13, 3:22, 4:7)
How does the above differ from Paul's gospel?
As far as this goes, the commonwealth of Israel, in general, was cut off for their rejection of Jesus as Messiah. Which is why Paul does not refer to them in the second part of that passage, but rather states we are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, of which those who remain[ed] lost sheep of the house of Israel were/are not a part.If Jesus is a Jew, and Gentile Christians are members of His Body (Ephesians 5:30), then how can we remain aliens to the commonwealth of Israel?
As Paul says in Ephesians 2:
11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands— 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel... 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ... 19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God.Ephesians 2:12 and 2:19 explicitly states that we are no longer "strangers and foreigners" to "the commonwealth of Israel", "but fellow citizens".
This is Peter's gospel:
1) Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. (Acts 10:43; 1 Peter 1:10-12, 2:24, 3:18)
2) He was buried and raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures. (Acts 10:40; 1 Peter 1:3, 1:21)
3) He now reigns from the right hand of God, and will reign until all his enemies have been destroyed. (Acts 2:30, 3:21; 1 Peter 3:22)
4) Then comes the resurrection when he will return to the earth and raise the souls who sleep. Those who are in Christ will be raised with imperishable bodies, and all will be judged. (1 Peter 1:3-4, 4:5)
5) Then comes the end. He will deliver the kingdom of God to the Father after destroying every rule, authority, and power. (1 Peter 1:13, 3:22, 4:7)
How does the above differ from Paul's gospel?