Originally posted by Nineveh
Mind giving some source? It would only be illegal is states that don't allow taping phone calls. Not like the illegality of that issue changes what's on the tapes. Last I knew it was used in a court case. Further info can be found by looking through that link.
The state laws regarding recording of telephone conversations (i.e. "wire tapping") are either one-party or two-party laws (a few have "all parties, which includes the telephone company). In a state with a one-party law, only one party needs to consent to the recording for it to be legal. In a state with a two-party law, both parties need to be consenting otherwise the recorder is breaking the law.
It gets interesting when the call is interstate between states with differing laws. Case law has held, in this instance, that the more restrictive of the two laws is upheld.
Here's how it works. West Virginia, where I live, is a one-party state. So if I secretly record a call from my one-party state to neighboring two-party state (say Maryland, for example), I am breaking the law. Additionally, by breaking the law in another state through interstate commerce (i.e. telephony, the Internet, or the U.S. Mail) I have now committed a federal crime and the case comes under the jurisdiction of the FBI...
As far as I am aware, there are ten two-party states. I checked the link you posted and all the tapes they mention are for the state of California - a two party state. This essentially makes all the tape inadmissible in court as evidence. Presumably the "Traditional Values Coalition" knows this which is why
they haven't tried to get anyone prosecuted and are attempting to sucker people like you into doing their work for them. Additionally, if any of these tapes were recorded out of state and ended up in the hands of the FBI, your friends at TVC would be looking at, at the very least, the loss of their precious tax exemption.
Pardon? I've given you 4 witnesses so far. Not including all the testimony I could dig up pretty easily from Docs that have left. It only takes a google search Z.
So how about doing one and coming up with a number? I'm quite willing to shoulder the burden of doing the statistical analysis, all you've got to do is come up with the number of abortion providers in the U.S...
That's much more simple to say than actually giving some info innit?
Speaking from experience, eh?
Alright, so far we have more than one witness of more than one clinic doing more than one illegal activity and you have offered....?
Questions and inquiries. (And an occasional answer - see above). It's what I do...
That these organizations provide valuable services to their communities. And like churches, I would suggest we shouldn't condemn them all because a few are below par in their processes.
They aren't needed, these "back allies with false fronts".
... in your opinion. You religionists would have more credibility if you'd clean up your own business before presuming to tell the rest of the world how to take care of their business. I hear a lot of talk about "changed lives", but don't see much of it at all... deal with your own abortion seeking people first. :doh:
