If one is "born gay" how do you explain ex-gays?
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eider
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ok doser
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20% of heterosexual prisoners studied in Britain did/do
Derf
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A better explanation would be sin and repentance. But that's what the thread title was trying to get us to think about.
McCoy
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No, but it had everything to do with your silly, reductionist intro about Nazi Germany and the Holocaust.
ok doser
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in what way is "and when the societal boundaries and guidelines told the Volksgemeinschaft that the life of the Jew was without value and must be exterminated, they were happy to be compliant" silly or reductionist?
I strongly recommend https://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Men-Reserve-Battalion-Solution/dp/0060995068
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ok doser
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McCoy
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No. That would be a sociopath sir. Psychopaths actually have a different brain structures than the rest of the population and their disorder appears to be innate.
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McCoy
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Because it’s reductionist in the extreme. First of all, the Nazi ideology as represented by the German National Socialism never held more than 37% of the National vote in a federal election, and most Germans were uncomfortable with Hitler and his ideas. The majority of the German population were not “happy to be compliant” you dolt. The majority of Germans made a decision to merely survive or go against the maniacal minority who had seized the wheel of the entire power structure and risk brown shirt beat downs, work camps, privation, death .
ok doser
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:think:
| com·pli·ant /kəmˈplīənt/ adjective: compliant
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perhaps you have a different definition of "compliant" :idunno:
ok doser
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from der spiegel
How Hitler Won Over the German People There were still many Germans who were skeptical of Hitler when he became chancellor in 1933. But Führer propaganda and military success soon turned him into an idol. The adulation helped make the Third Reich catastrophe possible. ..... Much suggests, in fact, that between the death of Hindenburg in August 1934 and the expansion into Austria and the Sudetenland four years later Hitler was indeed successful in gaining the backing of the vast majority of the German people, something of immeasurable importance for the disastrous course of German policy ahead. Apart perhaps from the immediate aftermath of the astonishing victory in France in summer 1940, Hitler's popularity was never higher than at the height of his foreign-policy successes in 1938. https://www.spiegel.de/international...-a-531909.html |
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ok doser
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many British studies show 30% of male heterosexual prisoners enjoy homosexual behaviors while imprisoned and revert to heterosexuality when released
these are studies by the British government, accepted by the scientific community
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf...hUKEwj7irynyZPnAhUJVt8KHQlmBi8Q4dUDCAc&uact=5
ok doser
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heterosexuality is the defualt setting, normal
no such thing as "ex-gay", the way you're using it
"ex-straight"? sure
same as ex-non-pedophile, or ex-non-murderer, or ex-non-rapist
ex-straight = homo
homo's exist, same as pedophiles, same as murderers, same as rapists
no such thing as "ex-gay", the way you're using it
"ex-straight"? sure
same as ex-non-pedophile, or ex-non-murderer, or ex-non-rapist
ex-straight = homo
homo's exist, same as pedophiles, same as murderers, same as rapists
McCoy
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Sorry, i don’t go to magazines to learn about history. This is not to say that the linked article doesn’t make valid points— I haven’t read it and I probably won’t. Why? Because this is a thread debating the possibility of sexual orientation being innate and you and I have not hitherto been engaged in a good faith historical debate that would warrant me fact-checking the article in question. My initial point was that your self-styled cliff’s notes versions of history were silly and if you want to debate the rise of anti-Semitism in 19th and 20th century Europe and its causes, I’d be happy to take it over to a history forum.
Let’s just say that this point of contention began with me challenging your assertion that the default position of human nature is total lawlessness— an assertion which is demonstrably false, by even a cursory glance at crime stats worldwide. The vast majority of human beings alive on the planet, maintain the general boundaries of basic morality, i.e. harm reduction and fairness. Again, if this weren’t so, America would have complete societal breakdown and anarchy— which contrary to your doomsday fetish it does not.