That's exactly it ... Cruz is losing because he is even more unlikable than the *other* unlikable windbag ...
I will not vote for trump
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That's exactly it ... Cruz is losing because he is even more unlikable than the *other* unlikable windbag ...
journey
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This has been a wild election cycle, and I don't claim to understand a lot of things. I want to repeat that I'm a Cruz supporter, mainly because he's a conservative Christian. I don't understand why so many people dislike him.
I just listened to Cruz give a speech saying that he is suspending his campaign. He didn't say a word about Donald Trump. I think that we're in for a wild ride and big changes. I'll just hope and pray that many of those changes are positive.
Interesting about Cruz suspending his campaign. I wonder if he will end up endorsing Trump.
journey
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I think that it's time for us to look down the road and pray for the future of our country. Maybe a common goal would be to keep a socialist/communist out of the White House. We'll have to find a way to unite behind someone to get that done, and this will be difficult. Many of us will not get what we wanted, but we should carefully try to avoid doing anything that helps to put a socialist in the White House. That might also mean doing some things that we don't want to do.
journey
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I don't think that he will. I think we'll have to wait and let some of the campaign wounds to heal to see what Cruz does. The speech Cruz just gave would have been the perfect opportunity to endorse Donald Trump and congratulate him. Instead, he didn't even mention Donald Trump.
George Affleck
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Predominantly white America believes that a severe crisis has been reached. Barack Obama's failed leadership and imperial style has guaranteed, in the minds of millions of Americans, that a strong political saviour is now essential. In their minds, drastic measures are required to right injustices piling up over many years, even to the extent of overlooking the obvious Trump shortcomings. They will now vote for whoever talks tough.
Angelo Codevilla has aptly stated; "Neither Obama nor Trump seem to know or care that cycles of reciprocal resentment, of insults and injuries paid back with ever more interest and ever less concern for consequences, are the natural fuel of revolutions—easy to start and soon impossible to stop. America’s founders, steeped in history as few of our contemporaries are, were acutely aware of how easily factional enmities deliver free peoples into the hands of emperors. America is already advanced in this vicious cycle. The only possible chance of returning it to republicanism lies in not taking the next turn, and in not following one imperial ruler with another.".
The last 20 years we have witnessed a growing political polarization the likes of which were more than enough to touch off civil wars in the past. At the very least we should expect turbulent times ahead for America if an emperor of a different stripe is chosen. Or... the can could just be kicked further down the road by electing Clinton.
Angelo Codevilla has aptly stated; "Neither Obama nor Trump seem to know or care that cycles of reciprocal resentment, of insults and injuries paid back with ever more interest and ever less concern for consequences, are the natural fuel of revolutions—easy to start and soon impossible to stop. America’s founders, steeped in history as few of our contemporaries are, were acutely aware of how easily factional enmities deliver free peoples into the hands of emperors. America is already advanced in this vicious cycle. The only possible chance of returning it to republicanism lies in not taking the next turn, and in not following one imperial ruler with another.".
The last 20 years we have witnessed a growing political polarization the likes of which were more than enough to touch off civil wars in the past. At the very least we should expect turbulent times ahead for America if an emperor of a different stripe is chosen. Or... the can could just be kicked further down the road by electing Clinton.
Trump - We're gonna win bigly
George Affleck
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Anger has never elected a good politician
Morpheus
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What you obviously don't understand is that the source of our troubles is actually capitalism running its course. I was going to originally say "run amok", but running amok is the inevitable conclusion to an economic system based, and dependent, on greed, so it is only the natural course that it collapse upon itself. It is the growth of socialism in European nations that has given them their increased economic stability and spared them from our ever-widening income disparity. The big rush to come here from Europe ended long ago. The trend has reversed. Our society no longer has any advantages to offer them.
Maybe you should now return to your duck-and-cover drills under your desk. I know it's hard for you to get past 100 years of propaganda designed by the wealthy ruling class who has so much to lose.
exminister
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I am quite surprised. I thought Cruz had said God had chosen him to be president. But checking around I see his father, wife and certain Christian Leaders were saying so. But Cruz is known to buck the system. I guess that is what's so surprising about this. He seems to have fallen in line to avoid a contested convention.
Scary, Trump could be our next President. I realized I still hadn't taken it seriously. Bernie wins Indiana. If he runs as an independent a Trump presidency would be more likely. Scary times but I guess that's always true.
ClimateSanity
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It's the wealthy rulung class that is pushing us to be like Europe. Capitalism makes millionaires. Socialism protects old wealth.
Tonight, a contested convention became impossible. They only way they could have had one is if they changed the rules. Trump would win on the first round of voting. John Kasich hasn't figured this out (Trump has 6.75 times more delegates than he does), but Cruz has, and he is now keeping his powder dry for the future career that he surely will have, either remaining in the Senate, or in a hypothetical Trump administration.
Sanders won't run as an independent. At this point, he literally couldn't, because he couldn't get on the ballots. And he's said from the beginning that he wouldn't. I'm more worried about Clinton. She has a lot of supporters in the Democratic party, but she has a lot of negatives, especially with independents, who decide general elections, and she's exactly the sort of paint-by-numbers candidate that Trump eats for breakfast. And frankly, she's not really a politician, doesn't have the style. Whatever else Trump may be, he's a rhetorical genius, and other candidates could learn from the demeanor he has.
George Affleck
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Angry white Americans
Angry white Americans
Look closely at the faces in this picture and tell me how a brash, extravagant billionaire attracts supporters (Indiana) like this?
One word - PAYBACK.
White America has a score to settle - 911, terrorism, job cutbacks, companies moving offshore, recessions, the housing crisis, even going back to the botched war in Viet Nam - they are just an angry, frustrated mob who know something is wrong. Trump can afford an army of advisers telling him which buttons to push to activate this neo-silent majority. These voters are now ripe to choose short term satisfaction over the long term wisdom of a qualified statesman (which doesn't exist).
But when they find out Donald is not what they think and that his isolationist policies will actually make their life more difficult, they will go to the back burner again and simmer until they either boil over or just give up and never vote again. Either way, everyone loses.
The truth is, these people should be angry at themselves for not demanding and rewarding excellence in politics. But, as we know, excellent leaders are now unelectable; its all about marketing now.
If elected, Donald Trump will do more to polarize Americans than the last 10 Presidents combined. If he loses, he will be the country's biggest cry-baby.
Angry white Americans
Look closely at the faces in this picture and tell me how a brash, extravagant billionaire attracts supporters (Indiana) like this?
One word - PAYBACK.
White America has a score to settle - 911, terrorism, job cutbacks, companies moving offshore, recessions, the housing crisis, even going back to the botched war in Viet Nam - they are just an angry, frustrated mob who know something is wrong. Trump can afford an army of advisers telling him which buttons to push to activate this neo-silent majority. These voters are now ripe to choose short term satisfaction over the long term wisdom of a qualified statesman (which doesn't exist).
But when they find out Donald is not what they think and that his isolationist policies will actually make their life more difficult, they will go to the back burner again and simmer until they either boil over or just give up and never vote again. Either way, everyone loses.
The truth is, these people should be angry at themselves for not demanding and rewarding excellence in politics. But, as we know, excellent leaders are now unelectable; its all about marketing now.
If elected, Donald Trump will do more to polarize Americans than the last 10 Presidents combined. If he loses, he will be the country's biggest cry-baby.
George Affleck
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I hope by this you mean that his slightly more than 500 word vocabulary resonates, in some pathetic way with a select, if not similarly pathetic, audience.
If there is genius it is definitely not intentional. He talks at a 5th grade level and his demeanor is that of a WWF entertainer.
The next step down would be illiteracy.
journey
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Baloney. Enough said.
no problem for a trump chump
-Trump accuses Cruz's father of helping JFK's assassin
-Trump accuses Cruz's father of helping JFK's assassin
You can keep re-hashing the same old Trump stories but he still keeps winning. Just sit back and enjoy The Donald as your next president !!! :rotfl:
The point of rhetoric is persuasion, and he's got that fine-tuned for his target audience.
I don't like the man. But he certainly has a certain gift, and a natural aptitude for speaking to the average American.
ClimateSanity
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A fifth grade aptitude generally won't belong to a millionaire.