marhig
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I've answered you! Grace came by Jesus Christ, so it doesn't matter how many times he says the word grace because grace came by him!
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You responded to my post, yes, congrats. But I want answers to my two questions, which you, in fact, have NOT answered.
MARHIG:
How many times did Jesus utter the word grace? (in the four gospels)
MARHIG:
How many times did Jesus say words like "commandment," "law," "Moses," "statute," etc? (in the four gospels)
marhig
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I haven't got a clue, and that isn't important. What is important is grace came by Jesus Christ! So whether he said the word grace or not it doesn't matter.
Why are you asking anyway?
So you don't know what Jesus said?
Why am I not surprised.
It's not important that you don't know what Jesus Christ said? No wonder you teach false doctrine.
Well you wouldn't know, considering you don't even know what Jesus said. Sure, you can quote scripture left and right, but you don't actually know what it says.
Why should I believe your claims on what the Bible says WHEN YOU YOURSELF don't even know what it says?
Because I'm trying to show you that you don't know what Scripture says, which leads to your false beliefs.
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Marhig, you just admitted you don't know what Jesus says. I recommend you find out, before preaching any more of your beliefs on here about what the Bible says. It's hypocritical, at best.
Go read the four gospels, counting how many times Jesus utters the word grace, and then read the gospels again, counting how many times Jesus utters words such as Moses, commandment, statute, law, etc.
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marhig
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Oh come on, don't be so dramatic. Listen to yourself! That's so over the top!
No I've never seen Jesus mention grace. Stop trying to twist things and turn everything on me. So what if he didn't? Grace came by him so it doesn't matter whether he mentioned it or not!
And don't order me around please, I'm not here to do what you tell me to!
popsthebuilder
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Yeah... yeah..... That stuff spoken by Jeremiah about the law of the spirit being written in the hearts and minds of the believer was actually St. Paul who had time traveled and gave that testimony to Jeremiah. And Jesus had no clue about it either even though He had a thourough grasp on scripture and was about the FATHER'S work.
Go paint your bizarro picture for someone more gullible who will swallow it right up like you pretend to have done.
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What's over the top is you saying you know the Bible, and then blatantly stating that you don't know what Jesus said about something.
But you don't know for sure, correct?
So if He never said the word or mentioned it, HOW COULD HE HAVE PREACHED IT!? Your statement contradicts your beliefs, and your beliefs contradict Scripture.
You're correct. JESUS NEVER, EVER, NO NOT ONCE, says the word "grace" in the four Gospels.
That should immediately tell you something, THAT HE DIDN'T TEACH GRACE!
No one here is twisting ANYTHING, except for you. Exhibit A:
See? Twisting Scripture to fit your beliefs.
If Jesus NEVER MENTIONED THE WORD GRACE...
How then COULD HE HAVE PREACHED IT!?
I didn't order you to do anything. I made a recommendation.
By the way, I'm still waiting for the answer to my second question:
How many times did Jesus use words like "Moses," "commandment," "law," "statute," etc?
popsthebuilder
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No....it isn't your boasting that shows you to be full of crap.
It is the fact that when pressured you always say you do works without boasting, but we know that isn't true because if it were true then you wouldn't be so vehemently against the work of GOD within one's own life.
Can you reference your statement;" begotten of the gospel" what about the other gospels you think there where? Was anyone born by those good newses? How is one born by a message?
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popsthebuilder
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What?
Your works will be accepted or burned.
So your works will be taken up or down to the pit .....but not you?
And do your works live on for eternity, and are they burned for eternity? Poor works.....another super logical fallacy.
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popsthebuilder
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It is your own misunderstanding that we are trying to help you to see for your sake.
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No. And to use the words of Marhig: Don't order me around.
I'm not going to stop challenging false beliefs. That would be foolish.
And yet still no one can answer the question, let alone correctly. Amazing, isn't it?
Says the one who doesn't delve into the Bible because he thinks it's a waste of time.
Don't you remember what Jesus said?
Then He said to them, [JESUS]“Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old.”[/JESUS] - Matthew 13:52 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew13:52&version=NKJV
Meaning that even well known passages can be taught many different times, and still new things can be learned.
exactly.
I have noticed that Jesus did not use the word "Grace" too long time ago. And Jesus does not use the word "faith alone" either.
That's one of the reasons why I do not like Paul much.
Paul's word has been used so negative ways by Christians.
There are many other things that Jesus did not teach but Paul alone did.
drbrumley
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What? You don't know there are two judgements?
drbrumley
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You. Are. Pathetic.
Yesterday you didn't have a clue how to answer the question of JR, and today now that the answer came out, you're like "oh yeah, I knew that."
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