ECT HOW MUCH DID THE JEWS KNOW , 1 PETER 1:13 ?

[DAN P]

Paul proclaimed repentance for everyone.
Acts 17:30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent,

Hi , troubsixx , REPENT ,and it has different meanings and the better explanation for REPENT / METANOEO , and in Acts 17:20 it means , A CHANGE OF MIND !!

When speaking to Israel REPENTANCE means WORKS , See Acts 26:20 !!

I just love to see , many see a word and ALWAYS think it means the SAME THING , no matter where the see that word written , like the Greek word BAPTISM , BAPTO , BAPTISMA , BAPTISMOS , and the other word that can be used , are PLACED , GIVEN , IDENTIFICATION , as you seem to be SHELTERED , concerning the bible !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi , troubsixx , REPENT ,and it has different meanings and the better explanation for REPENT / METANOEO , and in Acts 17:20 it means , A CHANGE OF MIND !!

When speaking to Israel REPENTANCE means WORKS , See Acts 26:20 !!

Once again your excuses make ZERO sense. Paul used the same GREEK word for repent in Acts 17 that Peter used in Acts 2:38, G3340.

This passage again proves that when Paul "came on the scene" he proclaimed the exact same thing as those before him. If it's the same, HOW is it different?
Acts 26:20 but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentance.

When did Paul recieve and proclaim this mystery?

 

[DAN P]

Once again your excuses make ZERO sense. Paul used the same GREEK word for repent in Acts 17 that Peter used in Acts 2:38, G3340.

This passage again proves that when Paul "came on the scene" he proclaimed the exact same thing as those before him. If it's the same, HOW is it different?
Acts 26:20 but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentance.

When did Paul recieve and proclaim this mystery?

Hi trubosixx get a VINE'S DICTIONARY and find the word Repent or Repentance and Grace and see why words are TRANSLITERATED

, you have been sheltered to long and you very CALLOW !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi trubosixx get a VINE'S DICTIONARY and find the word Repent or Repentance and Grace and see why words are TRANSLITERATED

, you have been sheltered to long and you very CALLOW !!

dan p

The definintion has no bearing here. Look at your comments. You said "when speaking to Israel" it means something different?

When speaking to Israel REPENTANCE means WORKS , See Acts 26:20 !!

If we look closely at the verse, he's not declaring for only Israel to repent and perform deeds.
Acts 26:20 but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentance.

 

[DAN P]

The definintion has no bearing here. Look at your comments. You said "when speaking to Israel" it means something different?




If we look closely at the verse, he's not declaring for only Israel to repent and perform deeds.
Acts 26:20 but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentance.

Hi trubosixx and what does PERFORMING DEEDS in keeping with their REPENTANCE / CHANGE OF MIND , MEAN ??

Can you give me an example HOW you repent with good WORKS ??

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi trubosixx and what does PERFORMING DEEDS in keeping with their REPENTANCE / CHANGE OF MIND , MEAN ??

Can you give me an example HOW you repent with good WORKS ??

dan p

The question doesn't fit the bible verse. It says repent and turn to God, that is one thing and then after they have turned to God they are to perform good deeds in keeping with repentance. Repent is the turning, good deeds are the result that you mean it.

Is this what you're looking for?
Eph. 4:1 I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called,

 

[DAN P]

The question doesn't fit the bible verse. It says repent and turn to God, that is one thing and then after they have turned to God they are to perform good deeds in keeping with repentance. Repent is the turning, good deeds are the result that you mean it.

Is this what you're looking for?
Eph. 4:1 I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called,

Hi and you are PUTTING your DONKEY before the CART !!

It says DOING WORKS BEFITTING / OR SHOWING WORKS THAT PROVE that you have been REPENTED , that is what Acts 26:20 means and you are AVOIDING the meaning !!

This means you are CALLOW and avoiding ,and are a complete BATTOLOGY !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi and you are PUTTING your DONKEY before the CART !!

It says DOING WORKS BEFITTING / OR SHOWING WORKS THAT PROVE that you have been REPENTED , that is what Acts 26:20 means and you are AVOIDING the meaning !!

dan p

I agree, it means showing works that prove you have repented. That is what Eph. 4:1 is telling us.

Did the people that Paul preached to and repented (changed their minds) do nothing when they believed?

What did the believers in this verse do when they heard and believed turning back to God?
Acts 18:8 Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed in the Lord, together with his entire household. And many of the Corinthians hearing Paul believed and were baptized.

 

[DAN P]

I agree, it means showing works that prove you have repented. That is what Eph. 4:1 is telling us.

Did the people that Paul preached to and repented (changed their minds) do nothing when they believed?

What did the believers in this verse do when they heard and believed turning back to God?
Acts 18:8 Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed in the Lord, together with his entire household. And many of the Corinthians hearing Paul believed and were baptized.

Hi and Eph 4:1 has NOTHING to do with REPENTANCE , and use verses in CONTEXT , PLEASE TRY ??

I have already explained Acts 18:7-8 and it shows Paul preaching in the synagogue and in vers 4 is preaching and PERSUADING Jews and Greek speaking Jews that Jesus was the CHRIST / MESSIAH in verse 5 !!

After preaching in thre Synagogue , Paul went next dorr to Justus house that is JOINED HARD to the Synagogue wall , verse 7 !!

Ans when in Justus house they all were worshipping God , in verse 8 and Crispus , were believing and were BAPTIZO !!

Paul was in the house NEXT DOOR ??

Answer how Crispus was BAPTIZO , was it with WATER / HUDOR , so do you see water HERE ??

This is the same Crispus of 1 Cor 1:14 and how was Crispus than baptized ??

Not with WATER / HUDOR , , but Baptized with the Holy Spirit !!

Baptism was out in Acts 1:5 and only the BAPTISMA is left and that is the Holy Spirit !!

2 Cor 3:13-16 proves that the Law and Baptism and Tones and Prophecies are OUT and 1 Cor 13:8 and Heb 6:1-2 explains the why the Jews are in their STUPOR they are in , like you ??

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi and Eph 4:1 has NOTHING to do with REPENTANCE , and use verses in CONTEXT , PLEASE TRY ??

You're missing a major concept here. Scripture should harmonize with other scripture. If Paul near his death said he "from the first" declared people to repent (but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God,) then it makes common sense he proclaimed repentance from start to finish. Just because it isn't specifically stated in a passage here or there doesn't mean it's not there. It has already been established! Mars hill was on his second journey. On his THIRD journey, same thing to Jews AND Greeks.
Acts 20:20 how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you in public and from house to house, 21 testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Answer how Crispus was BAPTIZO , was it with WATER / HUDOR , so do you see water HERE ??

This is the same Crispus of 1 Cor 1:14 and how was Crispus than baptized ??

Not with WATER / HUDOR , , but Baptized with the Holy Spirit !!

If Paul personally baptized Crispus and he asks them the question Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?, then it's obvious Paul water baptized Crispus. Do you have any proof that people were "Holy Spirit" baptized in the name of Jesus? It's well established that baptism in the name of Jesus is water baptism. Scripture harmonizes, not contradicts or changes.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Hi to all and I have seen that many believe that the OT saints and Peter knew and preached GRACE ?

Of course Peter knew grace because he knew that he was saved by grace:

"We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are" (Acts 15:11).​

 

[DAN P]

You're missing a major concept here. Scripture should harmonize with other scripture. If Paul near his death said he "from the first" declared people to repent (but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God,) then it makes common sense he proclaimed repentance from start to finish. Just because it isn't specifically stated in a passage here or there doesn't mean it's not there. It has already been established! Mars hill was on his second journey. On his THIRD journey, same thing to Jews AND Greeks.
Acts 20:20 how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you in public and from house to house, 21 testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.







If Paul personally baptized Crispus and he asks them the question Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?, then it's obvious Paul water baptized Crispus. Do you have any proof that people were "Holy Spirit" baptized in the name of Jesus? It's well established that baptism in the name of Jesus is water baptism. Scripture harmonizes, not contradicts or changes.

Hi troubsixx and in Acts 19:2-6 is your answer !!

In verse 2 Paul meets those never heard of the Holy Spirit !!

In verse 3 ONLY NEW the Baptism of John !!

In verse 4 , John indeed BAPTIZO / WATER , BUT John BAPTISMA / MEANS THE ACT OF BAPTISM and that is what BAPTISMA MEANS !!

In verse 5 , they were BAPTIZED in the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS , there it is what you wanted to see!!

So in verse 6 how did Paul baptized them ??

Are reading it , Paul LAID HIS HANDS UPON THEM and the Holy Spirit came upon them and they were speaking in TONGUES , and were Prophesying !!

Do you see that trousixx ??

No you don not . LOL !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

In verse 5 , they were BAPTIZED in the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS , there it is what you wanted to see!!

So in verse 6 how did Paul baptized them ??

Are reading it , Paul LAID HIS HANDS UPON THEM and the Hpoly Spirit came upon them and they were speaking in TONGUES , and were Prophesying !!

Do you see that trousixx ??

No you don not . LOL !!

dan p

Are you saying verse 5 & 6 are the same thing??
Verse 6 says NOTHING about baptism. In verse 5 what does it mean by "baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus?"

We can see in Acts 8 that baptism in the name of Jesus and the laying of hands are two totally different things.

 

[DAN P]

Are you saying verse 5 & 6 are the same thing??
Verse 6 says NOTHING about baptism. In verse 5 what does it mean by "baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus?"

We can see in Acts 8 that baptism in the name of Jesus and the laying of hands are two totally different things.

Hi and doe verse 5 follow vers6 !! LOLLLLLLLL !!

You are so CALLLOW and try to ACT DUMB and remind me of a SNOLLYGOSTER !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi and doe verse 5 follow vers6 !! LOLLLLLLLL !!

You are so CALLLOW and try to ACT DUMB and remind me of a SNOLLYGOSTER !!

dan p

What's up with the name calling?? You want me to call you names?

Yes it follows but that doesn't mean it's the same thing. Baptism in the name of Jesus is WATER, here is a verse to prove it.
Acts 10:47 “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

In Acts 8 we can see both, baptized in his name and the laying of hands to receive the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:16 for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit.
See, it's two different things.

Do you have a supporting scripture of laying of hands being "baptized in the name of Jesus"?

 

[DAN P]

What's up with the name calling?? You want me to call you names?

Yes it follows but that doesn't mean it's the same thing. Baptism in the name of Jesus is WATER, here is a verse to prove it.
Acts 10:47 “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

In Acts 8 we can see both, baptized in his name and the laying of hands to receive the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:16 for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit.
See, it's two different things.

Do you have a supporting scripture of laying of hands being "baptized in the name of Jesus"?

Hi turbo , and did you notice that in verse 47 the Greek word for WATER / HUDOR is USED !!

Is water used in Eph 4:5 is it used in Heb 9:10 and is water used in Matt 28:19 and is water used in Acts 19:5 and 6 , is water used in Acts 18:8 and is WATER / HUDOR used in Acts 1:5 and is there water in Rom 6:3 and in verse 4??

And I already gave you a verse where they were Baptized in the name of Jests !!

You keep asking the same questions OVER and OVER in un-belief !!

In your last paragraph is in Acts 19:5 and 6 , they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus , by the LAYING on of hands !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

In your last paragraph is in Acts 19:5 and 6 , they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus , by the LAYING on of hands !!

dan p

Do you really think it's smart to draw a conclusion from those verses alone when several other passageS prove without a shadow of a doubt that being baptize in the name of Jesus is with water.

You make claims that other verse easily prove wrong. HARMONY of scripture.

 

[DAN P]

Do you really think it's smart to draw a conclusion from those verses alone when several other passageS prove without a shadow of a doubt that being baptize in the name of Jesus is with water.

You make claims that other verse easily prove wrong. HARMONY of scripture.

Hi , turbo , and that is what DISPENSATIONALIST does , rightly divide the word of truth !!

In Eph 4:5 says , that there is One Loed , One Faith and ONE BAPTIZO / BAPTISMA and you see the the Greek in Eph 4:5 does mean BAPTISM , BUT it means BAPTISMA and means that in the dispensation of the Grace of God there is ONLY ONE BAPTIZER , and that is the Holy Spirit !!

Those that are BABES in Christ ( 1 Cor 3:1 and 3 , and you are not able to chew MEAT and only need MILK !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi , turbo , and that is what DISPENSATIONALIST does , rightly divide the word of truth !!

In Eph 4:5 says , that there is One Loed , One Faith and ONE BAPTIZO / BAPTISMA and you see the the Greek in Eph 4:5 does mean BAPTISM , BUT it means BAPTISMA and means that in the dispensation of the Grace of God there is ONLY ONE BAPTIZER , and that is the Holy Spirit !!

Those that are BABES in Christ ( 1 Cor 3:1 and 3 , and you are not able to chew MEAT and only need MILK !!

dan p

That's not dividing, that's butchering. In Acts 8, it's clear those in Samaria were baptized in the name of Jesus and then days later had hands laid on them receiving the Holy Spirit. Two different things. Also, in Acts 10 after Cornelius received the Holy Spirit Peter then commands them to be water baptized in the name of Jesus. Again clearly two different things, then you're going to say that it somehow changed into one!

With those kind of rules, you can make the bible say whatever you want. Good luck with that on judgment day.

 

[DAN P]

That's not dividing, that's butchering. In Acts 8, it's clear those in Samaria were baptized in the name of Jesus and then days later had hands laid on them receiving the Holy Spirit. Two different things. Also, in Acts 10 after Cornelius received the Holy Spirit Peter then commands them to be water baptized in the name of Jesus. Again clearly two different things, then you're going to say that it somehow changed into one!

With those kind of rules, you can make the bible say whatever you want. Good luck with that on judgment day.

Hi turbosixx , and I write to educate , not just for you , BUT to all those who read your answers to my posts , which are seen all over the USA and I use the verbs that are in the Greek text as seen by your answer above !!

dan p