ECT HOW MUCH DID THE JEWS KNOW , 1 PETER 1:13 ?

[DAN P]

Hi to all and I have seen that many believe that the OT saints and Peter knew and preached GRACE ?

1 Peter 1:13 reads , Wherefore gird up the loins of your MIND , be sober , and hope to the end FOR THE GRACE that is to be BROUGHT UNTO TO YOU at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Did the Peter and the Jews preached the Dispensation of the Grace of God , NO !!

Peter says , : that is to be brought unto at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Peter , only knew in Acts 1:3-4 , during these 40 days , concerning the Kingdom of God , which is the earthly Kingdom of the Jews !!

Isa 53 shows that the Nation of Israel did not understand what was going to be theirs !!

So the CHARIS / GRACE / FAVOR , until it is revealed unto them !!


We know why the 12 apostles could NOT preach the same message as Paul is BECAUSE , THE NATION and the Jewish MESSIANIC ASSEMBLY were all set aside , as Isa 6:8-11 and Luke 13:6-9 and 2 Cor 3:13-15 and this means Water Baptism , Tongues and Repentance DIED as 1 Cor 13:8

where Prophecies , Tongues , and Knowledge passed away and verse 13 says the ONLY 3 REMAIN , Faith , Hope and Love !!

When Christ comes back for us , ONLY LOVE will REMAIN !!

dan p

 

[Danoh]

Hi to all and I have seen that many believe that the OT saints and Peter knew and preached GRACE ?

1 Peter 1:13 reads , Wherefore gird up the loins of your MIND , be sober , and hope to the end FOR THE GRACE that is to be BROUGHT UNTO TO YOU at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Did the Peter and the Jews preached the Dispensation of the Grace of God , NO !!

Peter says , : that is to be brought unto at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Peter , only knew in Acts 1:3-4 , during these 40 days , concerning the Kingdom of God , which is the earthly Kingdom of the Jews !!

Isa 53 shows that the Nation of Israel did not understand what was going to be theirs !!

So the CHARIS / GRACE / FAVOR , until it is revealed unto them !!


We know why the 12 apostles could NOT preach the same message as Paul is BECAUSE , THE NATION and the Jewish MESSIANIC ASSEMBLY were all set aside , as Isa 6:8-11 and Luke 13:6-9 and 2 Cor 3:13-15 and this means Water Baptism , Tongues and Repentance DIED as 1 Cor 13:8

where Prophecies , Tongues , and Knowledge passed away and verse 13 says the ONLT 3 REMAIN , Faith , Hope and Love !!

dan p

Yep.

Theirs is a PROPHESIED Grace, Acts 3.

The Body's is a MYSTERY Grace, Eph. 3.

Acts 17: 11, 12

Rom. 5: 6-8.

 

[turbosixx]

Hi to all and I have seen that many believe that the OT saints and Peter knew and preached GRACE ?

1 Peter 1:13 reads , Wherefore gird up the loins of your MIND , be sober , and hope to the end FOR THE GRACE that is to be BROUGHT UNTO TO YOU at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Did the Peter and the Jews preached the Dispensation of the Grace of God , NO !!

Peter says , : that is to be brought unto at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Peter , only knew in Acts 1:3-4 , during these 40 days , concerning the Kingdom of God , which is the earthly Kingdom of the Jews !!

Isa 53 shows that the Nation of Israel did not understand what was going to be theirs !!

So the CHARIS / GRACE / FAVOR , until it is revealed unto them !!


We know why the 12 apostles could NOT preach the same message as Paul is BECAUSE , THE NATION and the Jewish MESSIANIC ASSEMBLY were all set aside , as Isa 6:8-11 and Luke 13:6-9 and 2 Cor 3:13-15 and this means Water Baptism , Tongues and Repentance DIED as 1 Cor 13:8

where Prophecies , Tongues , and Knowledge passed away and verse 13 says the ONLY 3 REMAIN , Faith , Hope and Love !!

When Christ comes back for us , ONLY LOVE will REMAIN !!

dan p

When did the Jews and Gentiles become one new man?

 

[DAN P]

When did the Jews and Gentiles become one new man?

Hi and Jews blow it by rejecting there MESSIAH , as Acts 13:46 and Acts 18:6 and then Acts 28:28 , brought destruction in 70 AD !!

Today Jews can be saved today is written in 2 Cor 13-16 , But when ever he ( the jew ) should turn towards ( the ) Lord , the VAIL is being taken away !!

And the they will turn toward THE LORD will really be during the GREAT TRIBULATION !!

And I am not saying that Jews can not be saved today !!

dan p

 

[WatchmanOnTheWall]

Hi to all and I have seen that many believe that the OT saints and Peter knew and preached GRACE ?

1 Peter 1:13 reads , Wherefore gird up the loins of your MIND , be sober , and hope to the end FOR THE GRACE that is to be BROUGHT UNTO TO YOU at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Did the Peter and the Jews preached the Dispensation of the Grace of God , NO !!

Peter says , : that is to be brought unto at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Peter , only knew in Acts 1:3-4 , during these 40 days , concerning the Kingdom of God , which is the earthly Kingdom of the Jews !!

Isa 53 shows that the Nation of Israel did not understand what was going to be theirs !!

So the CHARIS / GRACE / FAVOR , until it is revealed unto them !!


We know why the 12 apostles could NOT preach the same message as Paul is BECAUSE , THE NATION and the Jewish MESSIANIC ASSEMBLY were all set aside , as Isa 6:8-11 and Luke 13:6-9 and 2 Cor 3:13-15 and this means Water Baptism , Tongues and Repentance DIED as 1 Cor 13:8

where Prophecies , Tongues , and Knowledge passed away and verse 13 says the ONLY 3 REMAIN , Faith , Hope and Love !!

When Christ comes back for us , ONLY LOVE will REMAIN !!

dan p

Not me: http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?128427-What-ever-happened-to&highlight=

 

[DAN P]

Not me: http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?128427-What-ever-happened-to&highlight=

Hi and give me your POINT ??

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi and Jews blow it by rejecting there MESSIAH , as Acts 13:46 and Acts 18:6 and then Acts 28:28 , brought destruction in 70 AD !!

Today Jews can be saved today is written in 2 Cor 13-16 , But when ever he ( the jew ) should turn towards ( the ) Lord , the VAIL is being taken away !!

And the they will turn toward THE LORD will really be during the GREAT TRIBULATION !!

And I am not saying that Jews can not be saved today !!

dan p

This doesn't explain when Jew and Gentile became one group. When did that happen?

 

[DAN P]

This doesn't explain when Jew and Gentile became one group. When did that happen?

Hi and I have told you many times , BUT you are in Disbelief !!

And 1 Cor 12:13 says how all believers in Christ are BAPTIZO / PLACED into the B O C !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi and I have told you many times , BUT you are in Disbelief !!

And 1 Cor 12:13 says how all believers in Christ are BAPTIZO / PLACED into the B O C !!

dan p

So these believers in the body?
Acts 2:1 And as they were speaking to the people, the priests and the captain of the temple and the Sadducees came upon them, 2 greatly annoyed because they were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection from the dead. 3 And they arrested them and put them in custody until the next day, for it was already evening. 4 But many of those who had heard the word believed, and the number of the men came to about five thousand.

 

[DAN P]

So these believers in the body?
Acts 2:1 And as they were speaking to the people, the priests and the captain of the temple and the Sadducees came upon them, 2 greatly annoyed because they were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection from the dead. 3 And they arrested them and put them in custody until the next day, for it was already evening. 4 But many of those who had heard the word believed, and the number of the men came to about five thousand.

Hi and these on the day of PENTECOST are not in the B O C !!

Pentecost is a Jewish FEAST DAY and the B O C did not begin until Acts 9:6 and was NOT known until Paul began teaching the MYSTERY IN Rom 16:25 !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

the B O C did not begin until Acts 9:6 and was NOT known until Paul began teaching the MYSTERY IN Rom 16:25 !!

dan p

If that is true then why did Paul baptize those who believed the gospel?

What does Paul mean by this question to the Corinthians?
Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

 

[DAN P]

If that is true then why did Paul baptize those who believed the gospel?

What does Paul mean by this question to the Corinthians?
Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

Hi and I know that BAPTISM in Water is a hard for those that believe in water baptism as I believed it it also , many years ago , BUT not now !!

Baptism and Repentance and Tongues had to to do with Tsrael !!

That is why John the Baptist was sent TO WASH and CLEAN the Jews as they were to be Kings and Priests in the 1000 reign of Christ !!

The B O C are not Kings and Priest in the Millennium on earth !!

We are seated in the Heavenlies per Eph 1:3 !!

If Paul water baptized , than his ministry is in EMPTY , and Paul would than be preaching WORKS and GRACE

and Grace woulf lose it's POWER , 1 Cor 1:17 !!

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

If Paul water baptized , than his ministry is in EMPTY , and Paul would than be preaching WORKS

Then what does Paul mean by this question to the Corinthians?
" Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? "

 

[DAN P]

Then what does Paul mean by this question to the Corinthians?
" Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? "

Hi and what makes you believe that in verse 13 that water was used ?

Is Rom 6:3 and 4 , does BAPTIZED in these 2 verses , mean water , also ??

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi and what makes you believe that in verse 13 that water was used ?

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

"in the name of" makes me think so.
Acts 10:46 For they were hearing them speaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared, 47 “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
That's how Jesus said to make Christians, baptizing them in his name.

If it's not water, what did Paul mean by "Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"

Is Rom 6:3 and 4 , does BAPTIZED in these 2 verses , mean water , also ??

Absolutely.

 

[DAN P]

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

"in the name of" makes me think so.
Acts 10:46 For they were hearing them speaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared, 47 “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
That's how Jesus said to make Christians, baptizing them in his name.

If it's not water, what did Paul mean by "Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"



Absolutely.

Hi and do you see the Greek word for WATER / HUDOR in Rom 6:3 ?

Did nyou feel the WATER / HUDOR when the Holy Spirit BAPTIZO / PLACED you into His death ??

Did you have a TOWEL when you were PLACED into His DEATH ?

Then you can tells us all what BAPTISMA/ BAPTIZO means in Rom 6:4 ??

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Hi to all and I have seen that many believe that the OT saints and Peter knew and preached GRACE ?

1 Peter 1:13 reads , Wherefore gird up the loins of your MIND , be sober , and hope to the end FOR THE GRACE that is to be BROUGHT UNTO TO YOU at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Did the Peter and the Jews preached the Dispensation of the Grace of God , NO !!

Peter says , : that is to be brought unto at the Revelation of Jesus Christ !!

Peter , only knew in Acts 1:3-4 , during these 40 days , concerning the Kingdom of God , which is the earthly Kingdom of the Jews !!

Isa 53 shows that the Nation of Israel did not understand what was going to be theirs !!

So the CHARIS / GRACE / FAVOR , until it is revealed unto them !!


We know why the 12 apostles could NOT preach the same message as Paul is BECAUSE , THE NATION and the Jewish MESSIANIC ASSEMBLY were all set aside , as Isa 6:8-11 and Luke 13:6-9 and 2 Cor 3:13-15 and this means Water Baptism , Tongues and Repentance DIED as 1 Cor 13:8

where Prophecies , Tongues , and Knowledge passed away and verse 13 says the ONLY 3 REMAIN , Faith , Hope and Love !!

When Christ comes back for us , ONLY LOVE will REMAIN !!

dan p

When Jesus sent the 12 out to preach before his DBR, how many people did they save?

After his DBR, how many people did they save on Pentecost? Why the difference? What changed?

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Hi to all and I have seen that many believe that the OT saints and Peter knew and preached GRACE ?

Of course they preached grace because they were stewards of grace:

"Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms" (1 Pet.4:10).​

They were saved by the gospel of grace and the redemption spoken of in the following passage is the heart and soul of the gospel of grace:

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19. But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot" (1 Pet.1:18-19).​

 

[DAN P]

Of course they preached grace because they were stewards of grace:

"Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms" (1 Pet.4:10).​

They were saved by the gospel of grace and the redemption spoken of in the following passage is the heart and soul of the gospel of grace:

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19. But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot" (1 Pet.1:18-19).​

Hi Jerry and just how did Peter Grace when Israel was set aside DURING PAUL'S earthly ministry as recorded in 2 Cor 3:13-16 ??

Stewards od Grace is way different than the dispensation of the Grace of God !!

The Greek word for STEWARDS / OIKONOMOS is not Dispensation !!

The word MANIFOLD is translated , by your reading , by it;s various forms ?

How many FORMS it that ??

dan p

 

[turbosixx]

Baptism and Repentance and Tongues had to to do with Tsrael !!

Paul proclaimed repentance for everyone.
Acts 17:30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent,