Hero or Murderer
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Pssssttt ... that's not how *real* debate works. The person who makes an unsubstantiated claim (that would be you, as usual) has the responsibility of providing the proof.
LGBTism is a very unfulfilling lifestyle. Liberals mistake their internal pity for them as them simply being held down by conservative society. The psychology there is something ran rampant among people today- they don't understand the difference between an internally unfulfilled person or circumstance and the imaginative notion that they are oppressed.
Arthur Brain
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Prove it, then. Prove wrong what I know is right.
I'm tired of you all sitting there telling me I'm wrong and then not even proving your nonsense. I know I'm right because I lived with a 51 year old gay man and pretty much got the 101 on the whole thing. I went to a few gay bars with him as he would insist on doing so.
There is nothing 'known' about your tripe, only 'presumed' or 'liked'- you like to think it, you want people to 'know' it, but it just isn't true.
It's like you people don't favor reality, so you insult anyone's intelligence who does
Ah, so a personal anecdote equals fact and reality does it? I've been to gay bars on works nights out and there's more than a handful of straights in the place. They were popular for their friendly atmosphere as much as anything else. Heck, if anecdotes are the way then me and a mate went to Birmingham for a night out and inadvertently ended up in one (don't bother aCW) and met a doppelganger for a Welsh opera singer (female) along with many other rather attractive females. Was a cracking good natured night.
I don't care if you all believe it or not- you few believe what you want to believe anyway, regardless of reality.
I've never seen any of you 'prove' anything you claim, and I suppose that has everything to do with it- it's never based on anything real, only what ought to be or what sounds good
Morpheus
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Prove it, then. Prove wrong what I know is right.
I'm tired of you all sitting there telling me I'm wrong and then not even proving your nonsense. I know I'm right because I lived with a 51 year old gay man and pretty much got the 101 on the whole thing. I went to a few gay bars with him as he would insist on doing so.
There is nothing 'known' about your tripe, only 'presumed' or 'liked'- you like to think it, you want people to 'know' it, but it just isn't true.
It's like you people don't favor reality, so you insult anyone's intelligence who does
So now the truth is out. You lived with a 51-year-old gay man and went to gay bars. And only because he forced you to go? Right!!!. So why all the animosity then. Did it end poorly? Was he your father? Now that you have confessed you really should be willing to reveal all.
CherubRam
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Arthur Brain
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May be right? who else besides religious whackos and homophobic extremists would support murdering gay people?
He was a much older friend of mine who has looked out for me since I was 17 years old. He's bailed me out of jail, helped me out with jobs, and yes, gave me a place to stay for a while so I could get on my feet. We went to bars every weekend, and from time to time he wanted to go to a gay one.
Yes, the truth is out- that you're a pretentiously judgemental moron
Arthur Brain
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Are you talking from experience or repressing certain latent attractions yourself? This isn't actually intended as a slur but if you're repressed and in the closet so to speak yourself then it would partially explain your grotesque attitudes towards women.
CherubRam
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Arthur Brain
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Eh? This is a load of paranoid bunk wherever it emanated from. Nowhere sensible that's for sure...
Arthur Brain
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Same here...
Morpheus
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My point is that it is you who are judgmental. In spite of the fact that a homosexual cared enough for you to get you through tough times, you still rant about the evils of homosexuality. Instead of inspiring others to hate them, you should at least try to love them as much as one homosexual loved you. It's not like we are asking you to love them as much as God does.He was a much older friend of mine who has looked out for me since I was 17 years old. He's bailed me out of jail, helped me out with jobs, and yes, gave me a place to stay for a while so I could get on my feet. We went to bars every weekend, and from time to time he wanted to go to a gay one.
Yes, the truth is out- that you're a pretentiously judgemental moron
He has always known full well that I hold to Christianity- Reformed Christianity at that; a very traditional outlook contrary to contemporary bias. And I have always known he was gay.
So how does that make me 'judgemental'?
If anything, you simply misrepresent what I say- just like with your previous post. You are so in tune with one outlook that you perceive nothing else when you see critique on a certain thing.
You know the whole 'love the sinner, not the sin' cliche? That repeated poetry?
Well, most Christians themselves don't actually live up to it. hey are, in fact, 'homophobic', which is by definition a 'fear'.
I do, and that's why insinuations spewed out that I have some sort of sexual deviance AS SOON AS I POSTED.
That shut them right quick
Homosexuality being penalized by death is something that hasn't really been around much in Christian history. There were times- usually times of fanaticism or reform, when such would happen.
But Christian society has always otherwise had brothels and deviance in it's societies.
The Old Law teaches it, so it certainly exists in Muslim countries who still hold to such things. Even among Jewish rank- people don't know there are places in the world where they still go by death penalties for such things, though it is no secret with Muslim countries who are very open about it.
People just don't hear about it because we live in a world where it's taboo to bring it up- everyone has this obsession with 'politeness' over 'hearing hard truths'. But there are plenty of journalists and whatnot who have recorded these things out in the older world.
Homosexuality being penalized by death is something that hasn't really been around much in Christian history. There were times- usually times of fanaticism or reform, when such would happen.
But Christian society has always otherwise had brothels and deviance in it's societies.
The Old Law teaches it, so it certainly exists in Muslim countries who still hold to such things. Even among Jewish rank- people don't know there are places in the world where they still go by death penalties for such things, though it is no secret with Muslim countries who are very open about it.
People just don't hear about it because we live in a world where it's taboo to bring it up- everyone has this obsession with 'politeness' over 'hearing hard truths'. But there are plenty of journalists and whatnot who have recorded these things out in the older world.
Arthur Brain
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That shut them right quick
Homosexuality being penalized by death is something that hasn't really been around much in Christian history. There were times- usually times of fanaticism or reform, when such would happen.
But Christian society has always otherwise had brothels and deviance in it's societies.
The Old Law teaches it, so it certainly exists in Muslim countries who still hold to such things. Even among Jewish rank- people don't know there are places in the world where they still go by death penalties for such things, though it is no secret with Muslim countries who are very open about it.
People just don't hear about it because we live in a world where it's taboo to bring it up- everyone has this obsession with 'politeness' over 'hearing hard truths'. But there are plenty of journalists and whatnot who have recorded these things out in the older world.
What 'shut them right quick'?
If it was Cherub's post then nope, dumb claim to postulate at the outset. Most Americans don't support killing gays. If it was your crap then barely worth addressing as you've nothing as usual to back anything up with.
Arthur Brain
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Well, I wouldn't say you're homophobic per se but you sure do display an asinine attitude towards women so how do you account for that?
Actually, don't bother answering. It would only be more of the same with you that only a bit of experience can knock outta you...
Do you know what a 'phobia' is? It is not a disapproval or disdain for something, it is the fear of something. You all use the word 'homophobic' all the time, usually against anyone who simply critiques homosexuality.
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My attitude toward women is an appropriate one. There's a notion that they aren't equal to men, when they are more privileged and secured than men. That is cause for concern, especially when it is virtually impossible for those like yourself to see the light
Arthur Brain
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Do you know what a 'phobia' is? It is not a disapproval or disdain for something, it is the fear of something. You all use the word 'homophobic' all the time, usually against anyone who simply critiques homosexuality.
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My attitude toward women is an appropriate one. There's a notion that they aren't equal to men, when they are more privileged and secured than men. That is cause for concern, especially when it is virtually impossible for those like yourself to see the light
Eh, I know what a phobia in the absolute sense of the term involves but you'd have to be sheltered under a rock not to realize that the term has broadened to include more than that...
Your attitude has never been appropriate or grounded in anything other than a pompous disdain. Only you can alter that, else stay single or be in a closet or whatever...