Please define who it is you mean by "your" is it the people you were addressing in the opening paragraph?
He cannot be resisted or rejected.
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Please define who it is you mean by "your" is it the people you were addressing in the opening paragraph?
Man is called to repent, to trust and to be holy. None of which man is capable of performing. This is done to humble man and bring him to an acknowledgement of his weakness. People prefer to boast that they have fulfilled the impossible and are filled up with pride.
"Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction". Psalm 73:18
Yes
In that case I agree with you.
I must add that most people who come under the heading "Christian" are atheist and agnostic. They feign trust, because they feel they must. What they actually have is a refined form of positive mental attitude.
Truster is on a rampage
The "rampage" is 6506 days long.
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
You have been saying no one has free will. Why does God tell them to repent if they don't have free will?
Your doctrine is just absurd to say the least.
"no free will" followers are showing clear spirit of elitism faith.
ClimateSanity
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The same way Jesus did. It is asking the impossible with the intent of bringing the person to total helplessness.
ClimateSanity
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It does appear that way.
ClimateSanity
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To show their total helplessness and to remove all pride from their soul. The Lord resists the proud.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of Elohim: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Jerry Shugart
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Do you not know that faith comes by hearing the word of God?
And we do know that life comes as a result from believing the word of God and not prior to believing:
"And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name" (Jn.20:30-31).
Do you agree with that?
The word faith is a mis-translation.
Jerry Shugart
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Why didn't you answer my question?:
Why did some believe and others didn't?
"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God" (Jn.3:17-21).
It was because of their own sins that some resisted the gospel which comes in the Holy Spirit. Not that the LORD willed that they would not believe!
Jerry Shugart
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Is the word "believing" in the following translation also a mis-translation?:
"And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name" (Jn.20:30-31).
We can see that life comes as a result of believing and not prior to believing. Do you agree with that?
Jerry Shugart
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Everywhere in the NT?
And the OT.