His record in the playoffs stinks whether you'll ever admit it or not.
Except it isn't "HIS" record. It's a team record. I've said, more than once, that Tom has had better teams.
So the loss of Peyton took a team from playoff contention to the first pick in the draft. Tom sat and watched his team do better with the back up than Peyton could manage starting in that year before his injury.
Let he who has ears.
Better defenses, yes. But offensively Peyton had better talent around him.
I think he had, overall and consistently a better crop of WRs. And I think the offensive production tends to show that. Or to be clear, I'm not and I'll never say that the difference between Manning and Brady is a tier drop. It isn't. Beyond the Homer stuff and responsive pleadings I have a great deal of respect for his ability.
Then we didn't watch the same snowy game.
We did. And the numbers at the end of that game were weak. But weak isn't awful. Also, no players play better in snow at the position. Not Tom, not Jim Kelly, not Phil Simms. No one plays better. But some will play better than others. I think Peyton playing so many games in a dome was at a marked disadvantage for him in bad weather in Foxboro. Brady, at home and in an element he's had many more opportunities to understand and adjust to had the edge. No question. I think QBs who come to Denver at elevation are at a disadvantage too (though RBs more so given the nature of their exertion).
Peyton has a really small sample of games in those conditions to make a statement about. So it's mostly a great deal about not much and even less about how the position is played.
Uh, "31-17" is, I'm pretty sure, the preferred format. The Colts's score doesn't get to go first because you were rooting for them.:chuckle:
Sure didn't help anything...
Not argued. But it wasn't the game breaker. The Saints did that to everyone that year. It happens. In the old NFC there seemed to be a team like that almost every year for a stretch, but it was rarely the same team. The Bears one year, the Redskins another, then Dallas for a few.
Then you should be willing to admit he's been great in the regular season with consistency.
He's had stinkers in the regular season. So has Tom, but on average they're both great players with Manning being just a bit better by the tape.
And mediocre at best in the playoffs.
Isn't. The numbers don't support it. You're conflating team performance.
That's exactly what his record says.
No, his performance at the position and I've set that out with the numbers, has been better than Tom Brady, regular season AND post season.
When you have over a hundred rating and your team loses by a point it isn't your fault at QB. If you rush for a hundred and fifty yards in a game and your team loses we don't say, "Hey Adrian Peterson, you're just not a great running back in the post season." :nono:
How 'bout them Sox?:devil:
Looking good. You notice I kept my trap shut about Detroit this year. At least we aren't going to have to watch that happen in the Series this year... :mmph:
Go gett'em.