Feds Bust Militia Plot to Kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Overthrow Government

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Feds Bust Militia Plot to Kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Overthrow Government: Affidavit

Federal prosecutors on Thursday announced the arrest of six men who allegedly plotted with a militia group to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

The half a dozen men were arrested Wednesday night after the FBI and Michigan State Police reportedly spent hours raiding a Hartland, Michigan, home. As part of the plot, the group joined forces with members of a Michigan militia, with whom they discussed attacking the state Capitol building, storming a police facility, and kidnapping Whitmer outside her vacation home before Election Day, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday.

The individuals named in the complaint include Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta.

The affidavit states that through an informant, the FBI became aware that several men, including Croft and Fox, were discussing “the violent overthrow of certain government and law-enforcement components.” During these discussions, the two agreed to “unite others in their cause and take violent action against multiple state governments that they believe are violating the U.S. Constitution.” One action was kidnapping Whitmer outside one of her homes, according to the affidavit.

 

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[The Barbarian]

The problem is that Trump sees all this as "puffery", lies that no reasonable person would believe. He's tried to get out of fraud lawsuits by claiming that his endorsements were so phony that no reasonable person would believe them:

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump and his adult children on Thursday urged a federal judge to dismiss a racketeering lawsuit accusing them of using the family name to promote sham marketing opportunities to vulnerable, financially struggling investors.
...
They also said Trump’s promotional statements about ACN were merely opinion, or were “puffery” that reasonable investors could not rely on, and that none of the other defendants said anything the investors might have heard.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-marketing-lawsuit-idUSKCN1QA2WZ

Which is probably true in that sense. But there are millions of people who are gullible enough to actually trust Donald Trump and believe some of the things he says; some of them take him seriously enough to do things like plan the violent overthrow of state government at his urging.

He's still responsible under a number of federal laws.

 

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FBI Affidavit here:

FBI affidavit: Conspirators wanted to kidnap gov to remote Wisconsin location

 

[The Barbarian]

FBI Affidavit here:

FBI affidavit: Conspirators wanted to kidnap gov to remote Wisconsin location

That's truly disturbing. Most of these guys are GI Joe wannabees, without a clue, But even stupid people with guns can end up getting people killed. Those guys need a long time in a cell to figure it all out.

And yes, those public figures who incite them need to be held criminally accountable. There's a lot of case law that draws the line rather precisely. So Trump's handlers might be having a serious talk with him about felonious behavior.

 

[annabenedetti]

That's truly disturbing. Most of these guys are GI Joe wannabees, without a clue, But even stupid people with guns can end up getting people killed. Those guys need a long time in a cell to figure it all out.

And yes, those public figures who incite them need to be held criminally accountable. There's a lot of case law that draws the line rather precisely. So Trump's handlers might be having a serious talk with him about felonious behavior.

I doubt they're having a serious talk with him about anything but of course he should be held accountable.


Militia began kidnapping plot shortly after Trump praised armed anti-Whitmer protesters as ‘very good people’

Six of the men were taken into custody after a raid in suburban Detroit Thursday morning. They were Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta and 24-year-old Ty Garbin.

An additional seven men affiliated with a militia known as Wolverine Watchmen were also arrested. They are: Paul Bellar, 21, Shawn Fix, 38, Eric Molitor, 36, Michael Null, 38, William Null, 38, Pete Musico, 42, and Joseph Morrison, 42.

 

[The Berean]

Wow, this is pretty crazy. Glad to see the FBI on the ball and arrested these violent thugs.

 

[The Barbarian]

Why do those guys always look like "their family tree don't branch?"

 

[Idolater]

The problem is that Trump sees all this as "puffery", lies that no reasonable person would believe. He's tried to get out of fraud lawsuits by claiming that his endorsements were so phony that no reasonable person would believe them:

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump and his adult children on Thursday urged a federal judge to dismiss a racketeering lawsuit accusing them of using the family name to promote sham marketing opportunities to vulnerable, financially struggling investors.
...
They also said Trump’s promotional statements about ACN were merely opinion, or were “puffery” that reasonable investors could not rely on, and that none of the other defendants said anything the investors might have heard.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1QA2WZ

Which is probably true in that sense. But there are millions of people who are gullible enough to actually trust Donald Trump and believe some of the things he says; some of them take him seriously enough to do things like plan the violent overthrow of state government at his urging.

He's still responsible under a number of federal laws.

Cite three.

Feds Bust Militia Plot to Kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Overthrow Government

These people should have planned to kidnap government buildings, not politicians, the Magna Carta precedent made the king and his family off limits, but not his buildings.

Stupid.

 

[Carolina]

I doubt they're having a serious talk with him about anything but of course he should be held accountable.


Militia began kidnapping plot shortly after Trump praised armed anti-Whitmer protesters as ‘very good people’

Six of the men were taken into custody after a raid in suburban Detroit Thursday morning. They were Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta and 24-year-old Ty Garbin.

An additional seven men affiliated with a militia known as Wolverine Watchmen were also arrested. They are: Paul Bellar, 21, Shawn Fix, 38, Eric Molitor, 36, Michael Null, 38, William Null, 38, Pete Musico, 42, and Joseph Morrison, 42.

Duck Dynasty goobers.

 

[Carolina]

Any reaction/comments/twitters from Hair Fuhrer?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Any reaction/comments/twitters from Hair Fuhrer?

He's probably too busy playing indoor golf...

 

[ok doser]

Duck Dynasty goobers.

admit it, you harbor a secret desire to pick their ducks, don't you?

 

[annabenedetti]

admit it, you harbor a secret desire to pick their ducks, don't you?

Admit it. If these weren't white guys, you'd be screaming your head off, and so would every other MAGA here.

 

[ok doser]

Admit it. If these weren't white guys, you'd be screaming your head off, and so would every other MAGA here.

Scream your fool head off at this, racist:

 

[Jerry Shugart]

"More on the ideology of one of the men who was busted by the FBI for a plot to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer. In this video he poses in front of an anarchist flag to tell people that the Declaration of Independence is an anarchist document. Brandon Caserta is an anarchist."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-claims-it-foiled-plot-kidnap-michigan-governor

In case you don't know the anarchists are Biden supporters and from the left. Not from the right!

 

[annabenedetti]

Scream your fool head off at this, racist:

You're a racist and a bigot and when white domestic terrorists are arrested - crickets from you. If they were Muslim or Black you would've posted 50 times on it by now.

All you can think to do in your bigoted brain is pivot to exploiting murdered children for an internet forum gotcha. You are sick. So sick.

 

[annabenedetti]

"More on the ideology of one of the men who was busted by the FBI for a plot to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer. In this video he poses in front of an anarchist flag to tell people that the Declaration of Independence is an anarchist document. Brandon Caserta is an anarchist."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...higan-governor

In case you don't know the anarchists are Biden supporters and from the left. Not from the right!

No, they're 2nd amendment militia. You have one guy in front of an anarchist flag and every rightwing site I've been on has posted this as a frantic attempt to divert attention from the fact that these guys met up at the anti-mask rightwing rallies in the capitol. They're white domestic terrorists.

BTW anarchists aren't Biden supporters either.

 

[ok doser]

You're a racist and a bigot ...

nunh uh - you are