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You should wonder if actually you don't know what a platitude actually is, because it's disturbing how frequently you've incorrectly labeled the RESURRECTION platitudinal.
"He is risen" (Mt28:6KJV Mk16:6KJV Lk24:6KJV) is not, a platitude. Just by definition, this isn't an argument I'm making, I'm saying you're misusing the word platitude. Check your dictionary.
You can't just dismiss the RESURRECTION by saying something like "of course [not]." It's way, way too important a thing---whether fiction or nonfiction---to do that. You have to address it.
What's the downside, in considering my condition inoperable? You can't just say, "Because it's a meme," you have to show where the meme is harmful to me or to anybody else, and also it would help if you could show also, that it does me no good, and by analogy to financial opportunity cost, that the meme is keeping me from something better, and hopefully something better by a wide margin.
And, to put it another way, what's so great about thinking the Good News (Mt28:6KJV Mk16:6KJV Lk24:6KJV) is fiction, as compared to thinking that it is nonfiction?
I think I've got the meaning of platitude more right this time than I usually do.
| platitude platɪtjuːd/ noun a remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful. |
Your use of 'He is risen' was repeated; you seem to think it has moral content; but you had used it so often that it had ceased to be thoughtful or interesting. You could have been more interested if it wasn't just a bald assertion, and you could have been more thoughtful by explaining how it applied to the topic at hand.
Coming back from the dead is not that interesting if you look at the whole of the Judeo-christian scriptures. It is commonplace. Saul of Tarsus claimed in Acts 26:23 and 1 Corinthians 15:20 that Jesus was the first to be resurrected but a witch raised Samuel from the dead in 1 Samuel 28:11, 14; Elijah raised a boy from the dead in 1 Kings 17:21-22; Elisha brough a dead boy to life in 2 Kings 4:32-35; and repeated the feat with a man's body in 2 Kings 13:21; Moses and Elijah had a conversation with Jesus after being raised from the dead on different occasions in Luke 9:30; then Jesus had a go in Matthew 9:23-25, Luke 7:12-15, and with Lazarus in John 11:43. To cap off all that, many bodies of the saints arose when Jesus died, as alleged in Matthew 9:50-53. So what is particularly special about Jesus's resurrection?
If you don't care about whether any of it is true, which has to be the first question, then all there is left I suppose is the bigotry, hatred, attempts to gain influence over the private affairs of non-christians, claims by churches for tax exemptions to finance their special club activities, attempts at lying to children about natural history and cosmology... see many other examples in my other many posts on the topic. Christianity has been one of the biggest cons in all human history.
Because it is important to me what can reasonably be said to be true. It is not reasonable to claim that people walk again after they are dead. Is that important to you, or do you not mind that the meme might be lying to you as part of its own Darwinian survival and reproduction strategy? There are several parasites that influence the working of the host's brain to the parasite's advantage, and memes are ideas that do pretty much the same thing.
Stuart
Einstein believed in intelligent design.
The fact that you can see creation, and deny intelligence, shows that you are the one with the ridiculous belief.
Neither, which is more ethical to you?
1)The fact there is a hell and some people are "loving" you into it or
2)Warning you that there is and that there is a way to avoid it?
Then you think prayers and an invitation to receive Christ should be offered at atheist meetings?
The Intelligent Design movement started in the early 1980s, thirty years after Einstein's death.
I recommend reading much more if you really want to know what Einstein believed. And be prepared, if you do, for your way of believing to be called 'naive and childlike' by him. And be prepared to completely misunderstand what he said and wrote on religion, because most people do. Try reading Spinoza to get some idea of Einsteins god as metaphor for the comprehensibility and order in the universe. It's not a personal god that you can ask where you left your car keys. It's a god that isn't really there. Good luck.
Although I'm not sure why you bring up Einstein. What does he have to do with it?
Stuart
You brought him up, i responded to what you said. Check this on what he believed about the One greater than he:
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/01/16/Einstein-and-Intelligent-Design.aspx#Article
I do agree, hes smarter than you and doesnt deny a Creator.
You only see creation if you go looking for something that you believe was created. But if you see intelligence, have you ever asked yourself where the intelligence came from, how it came to be? I'd suggest you haven't. So you might 'believe in' an eternal god (no idea what that means) that creates intelligent things. Well, how does a god create intelligence? Where did the intelligence come from in the first place to do the creating? There is an answer to that, and it's called mutation and natural selection, and it completely explains how intelligence comes into being, and if your god exists then the best explaination for the intelligence of that god is also some process of evolution by natural selection.
I think the problem with your post mainly is that you are afraid of asking any of these kinds of questions, so whatever the right answer is I must reject your approach as fearful. Why would you worship something that makes you fearful? Because you fear what it will do to you? And all you would have done is used the brain you think this god gave you to use.
Christianity: the club for people who don't mind really not knowing.
Stuart
You dont believe the world and everything in it was created?
No. Perfect love casts out fear. Care to take a crack at what ive asked you now?
If someone says to you 'You're dead already', especially if it's in a New York accent, then why would you not suspect it of being a death threat?
Well, as it happens I don't think it means anything at all, and the person who wrote it has failed to convince me that it is anything real.
Stuart
Then it was completely stupid to say that, right?
Learn something:
Ephesians 2:2 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
You being without Christ, are already dead.
Think about what you said, then what i said, it might come to you.
No, because in my country it is illegal to make a death threat, and I think it is the same where you are.
So which of the several 'deaths' in christianity are we talking about now? The one that happens to us all, or some other fantasy death that is all about a vengeful god and your fear of it?
Stuart