I don't know about others, but, I would prefer avoiding a Nuclear war with Russia.
Fake News: CIA Says Russia Preferred Trump
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ok doser
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According to the Bible, our present world will someday be destroyed and a new world (Earth) will take its place.
We ought not to be the "Police of the World." All out Nuclear war isn't the answer to human rights violations.
Since the beginning of time, there have been human rights violations. There always will be. We, as an idealistic Nation cannot possibly control the rest of the world.
It's an exercise in futility to believe WE can dictate to the rest of the world, what they can and cannot do. We can't FORCE our values on other countries.
ClimateSanity
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Exactly.
Alate_One
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No, but that doesn't mean you befriend and support the abusers.
Alate_One
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Resisting Russian intrusion doesn't mean "all out nuclear war". It might mean not nominating a pro-russia secretary of state at least.
Do you believe in democracy? Do you think we should befriend and ally with nations that are human rights abusers?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
name one that's not :idunno:
What if the CIA investigates and finds proof that the Russians hacked this election:
1) Declare all out WAR?
2) Have a "Do over, election?"
3) Take the Presidency away from Trump and give it to Hillary because of the "Popular vote issue?"
4) Declare Obama the permanent King or Dictator?
5) Just let the Inauguration take place and end this fiasco?
Number 5 would be the best for our Nation.
1) Declare all out WAR?
2) Have a "Do over, election?"
3) Take the Presidency away from Trump and give it to Hillary because of the "Popular vote issue?"
4) Declare Obama the permanent King or Dictator?
5) Just let the Inauguration take place and end this fiasco?
Number 5 would be the best for our Nation.
In one way or another, all Nations, including our own are perpetrators of injustice. We do nearly nothing for the homeless and mentally ill that walk the streets.
President Trump is a businessman, and that's what this country needs. If we can do business with Russia, all the better. Is it better to have Russia as an enemy or an ally? We allied with them in WW2 to bring down Hitler and the Nazis.
There's no PERFECT country on the face of the earth. We just have to do the best we can with what we have.
ClimateSanity
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Why do you believe WAPO and not Kelly Ann Conway?
Do you realize most people who have trusted the MSM over the decades are decades long coolaid drinkers? I'm not saying everything they print is BS but on the really important society changing topics, there is major deception going on. When it comes to politics, they will protect their holy grail narratives at any price. If you read their stories unaware of that context, you are likely to fall for false information.
Running around in the Middle East and trying our best to calm things down, gets us nowhere. Those people have been at war for thousands of years. We've been a nation for 200 plus years.
Hopefully, President Trump will build up our military. (Defense wise.) Hopefully, he will get that wall built. And, he will get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something, far better.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
we should take a look at canada's system, both for the good aspects and for the bad:
| Introduction Canada's health care system is a group of socialized health insurance plans that provides coverage to all Canadian citizens. It is publicly funded and administered on a provincial or territorial basis, within guidelines set by the federal government. Under the health care system, individual citizens are provided preventative care and medical treatments from primary care physicians as well as access to hospitals, dental surgery and additional medical services. With a few exceptions, all citizens qualify for health coverage regardless of medical history, personal income, or standard of living. http://www.canadian-healthcare.org/ |
ClimateSanity
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Here is another article that throws doubt on the legitimacy of the idea that Russia was behind the Wikileaks emails. Everyone forgets assange denies Russia was behind the hacking. Why believe assange when he was attacking bush but now give assange no credibility at all?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...laims-russia-sought-influence-presidential-el
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...laims-russia-sought-influence-presidential-el