Faith and the Spirit Come By Hearing and Believing the Gospel

Robert Pate

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You don't believe that Christ death alone saved them He died!

Your problem is with the Bible.

The scripture plainly says that Jesus tasted death for EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.

You don't believe what the scriptures say. Instead you embrace the doctrine of a heretic.
 

beloved57

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Your problem is with the Bible.

The scripture plainly says that Jesus tasted death for EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.

You don't believe what the scriptures say. Instead you embrace the doctrine of a heretic.
You don't believe the scripture, you don't believe that Christ death saved them He died for.
 

Robert Pate

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You don't believe the scripture, you don't believe that Christ death saved them He died for.

I believe that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world just like the Bible says, 1 John 2:2.

You don't believe that. You prefer the words of a heretic over the word of God.
 

beloved57

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I believe that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world just like the Bible says, 1 John 2:2.

You don't believe that. You prefer the words of a heretic over the word of God.
You don't believe that His Death alone saved them He died for, nor do you believe and understand who the World is He died for.
 

Nanja

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You stand in rejection of salvation by grace through faith. You are lost.


Salvation by Grace is only for God's Elect whom Christ died for 2 Tim. 1:9, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23. And the Faith given them in New Birth is a Fruit of the Spirit Gal. 5:22.

The natural man cannot be saved by his own faith, for that kind of faith can never please God Rom. 8:7-8; Is. 64:6!

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Robert Pate

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Salvation by Grace is only for God's Elect whom Christ died for 2 Tim. 1:9, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23. And the Faith given them in New Birth is a Fruit of the Spirit Gal. 5:22.

The natural man cannot be saved by his own faith, for that kind of faith can never please God Rom. 8:7-8; Is. 64:6!

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Calvinism is just the opposite of salvation by grace through faith.

Grace means God's unmerited favor towards fallen man, John 3:16 is a glimpse of God's grace.

Faith means faith in the work and person of Jesus Christ, plus nothing.
 

Nanja

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Originally Posted by Nanja
Salvation by Grace is only for God's Elect whom Christ died for 2 Tim. 1:9, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23. And the Faith given them in New Birth is a Fruit of the Spirit Gal. 5:22.

The natural man cannot be saved by his own faith, for that kind of faith can never please God Rom. 8:7-8; Is. 64:6!

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Faith means faith in the work and person of Jesus Christ, plus nothing.


But not your own faith or believing you perform while still carnal/in the flesh Rom. 8:7-8.
No person is saved by any work he does, and believing is a work:


ergon, G2041:

II. any product whatever, any thing accomplished by hand, art, industry, or mind


The Faith that is a Fruit and Gift of the Holy Spirit is received passively when a person is Born Anew, Born of the Spirit. That's the only kind of Faith that pleases God, it's God-Given John 3:27. Then the following verse applies:

Rom. 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

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Robert Pate

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Originally Posted by Nanja






But not your own faith or believing you perform while still carnal/in the flesh Rom. 8:7-8.
No person is saved by any work he does, and believing is a work:


ergon, G2041:

II. any product whatever, any thing accomplished by hand, art, industry, or mind


The Faith that is a Fruit and Gift of the Holy Spirit is received passively when a person is Born Anew, Born of the Spirit. That's the only kind of Faith that pleases God, it's God-Given John 3:27. Then the following verse applies:

Rom. 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

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You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith. You are also in denial of the many scriptures that tell us that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

You are also in denial of the fact that people are saved by hearing and believing the Gospel, Hebrews 4:4.

You need to come to Christ as a repentant sinner and be saved. Trusting in Christ alone.
 

beloved57

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You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith. You are also in denial of the many scriptures that tell us that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

You are also in denial of the fact that people are saved by hearing and believing the Gospel, Hebrews 4:4.

You need to come to Christ as a repentant sinner and be saved. Trusting in Christ alone.
You don't believe the scripture, nor do you know what the World is that God so loved, you are in unbelief and darkness.
 
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