Executing homosexuals

[zoo22]

God is "not willing that any should perish" yet He commanded that some perish. This has always been the argument! You don't see it as consistent because you refuse to see that capitol crimes are more destructive than capitol punishment.

Who's that written to Delmar? Who's the "everyone" Peter is writing to?

Actually, never mind. Believe what you want. This thread isn't about what God said or didn't say. If it helps you sleep better at night, that's great, you don't want homosexuals to be executed.

And this thread isn't about if or why homosexuals should be executed. Why can't people get that? It's about what the plan is to put that into action.

You advocate that homosexuals are executed, right? So what's the plan to have homosexuals educated?

 

[Delmar]

Sorry that's such a big image. Wish I could make it smaller.

Put a little effort into it. http://www.shrinkpictures.com/

 

[Delmar]

...I think it's a completely cowardly argument...

Of coarse you do, and I explained why.

 

[Eeset]

This thread isn't about if or why homosexuals should be executed. It's about how you plan that it happens.

No zoo. This thread is about you trying to look superior to others who want to follow what is in the Bible. You are trying to lay snares and traps. You are seeking a gotcha moment. The sad thing is that you remain agnostic. In other words you haven't a clue.

 

[zoo22]

Of coarse you do, and I explained why.

Okay fine. We disagree on that and it really doesn't make any difference to the topic anyway. So let's move on.

For the folks here who advocate executing homosexuals, what's the plan?

 

[Eeset]

Okay fine. We disagree on that and it really doesn't make any difference to the topic anyway. So let's move on.

For the folks here who advocate executing homosexuals, what's the plan?

The plan is to begin with the agnostic male homosexuals. After that is finished it will be all downhill.

Next question?

 

[Delmar]

The plan is to begin with the agnostic male homosexuals. After that is finished it will be all downhill.

Next question?

Ouch!

 

[Lighthouse]

That'd be a part of a plan. Basically I just wanted to set aside talking about if or why homosexuals should be executed, which is covered in pretty much every other thread here at TOL, and talk about what the plan is to get the homosexual execution that people advocate underway.

There are seriously hundreds of threads here at TOL about homosexuals. Nothing about how the extermination will unfold.

There are all kinds of plans for putting an end to abortion, or how taxes should work, or how the American medical system should work, or what to do about illegal immigration, or how to better coach a football team, how to fix the economy, plans for most everything, but even though homosexuality is surely the biggest topic here at TOL after God, and plenty of people at TOL advocate that homosexuals are executed, for some reason, no one seems to talk about the plan to execute them. Folks seem to prefer to talk about body orifices. So where's the "execute homosexuals!" TOL shirt? Who's organizing the "execute homosexuals" rallies? Does Lighthouse spend weekends holding up "Queers deserve execution!" banners on freeway overpasses? Who's the execute homosexuals candidate? What's their plan? ... What's the plan?

The First Five Days

And here's the shirt:

It be a good thing we're not ruled over by the likes of
Lighthouse and his bloodthirsty ilk! Who knows, perhaps
after executing all the homosexuals, we could start ridding
Society of all forms of sinful behavior! Including liars,
adulterers, gossipers, gluttons, etc., etc.!

At that rate, we'd wind up having one man left standing, and
that would be, "Lighthouse!" What a world that would be!

If you had any integrity you'd stick to those sins that were actually crimes under the Mosaic Law.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The First Five Days

And here's the shirt:

If you had any integrity you'd stick to those sins that were actually crimes under the Mosaic Law.

Like I've said before, I don't respect your opinion! You're
certainly not one of my all-time favorites on this forum!

No offence intended, I'm just being honest with ya! In
other words, "You annoy GM!" You'll just have to grin
and bear it! It is what it is, as they say! OK? Talk to ya
later! Best wishes, hope all is well!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Homosexuality is a sin, one of many! The Bible says it's an
abomination, and I agree on both of those assessments!
However, we're not living under the law, nor is God dealing
with mankind the same way today as He did with the House
of Israel in the Old Testament!

The gentiles (us) were never even given the law! God's message
of forgiveness, mercy and eternal life is offered today, to the Jews
as well as the gentiles! Lighthouse and his ilk, seem to want to live
in accordance with the Old Testament way of doing things; therefore,
they desire to have homosexuals "stoned" so to say!

As I've said before, in those days if one is caught in adultery, they
were stoned! If an unruly child is unrepentant in his ways, he was
stoned!

Why do some believe that it's okay to "stone" homosexuals, but they
don't seem to have a problem with adulterers or unruly children?

It seems bias, at best! If Lighthouse and his ilk wish to live under the
Old Testament way of doing things then, why not advocate All the
laws during that period? We are living through an era of God's (free-gift) Grace!

Paul never advocated the death penalty for homosexuals! He was
sent with the message of God's Grace (offered) to the gentiles! That
was and is OUR message for today! Not living under the law and all
of its contents!

If one wishes to change the law throughout the land, don't use the Old Testament
as your basis!

 

[Lighthouse]

Like I've said before, I don't respect your opinion! You're
certainly not one of my all-time favorites on this forum!

No offence intended, I'm just being honest with ya! In
other words, "You annoy GM!" You'll just have to grin
and bear it! It is what it is, as they say! OK? Talk to ya
later! Best wishes, hope all is well!

I annoy you because I know the Bible and you don't, you simplistic little troll.

Homosexuality is a sin, one of many! The Bible says it's an
abomination, and I agree on both of those assessments!
However, we're not living under the law, nor is God dealing
with mankind the same way today as He did with the House
of Israel in the Old Testament!

Not a single shred of this has anything to do with how God is dealing with us, or how He dealt with other people before. It has absolutely zero to do with sin.

The gentiles (us) were never even given the law! God's message
of forgiveness, mercy and eternal life is offered today, to the Jews
as well as the gentiles! Lighthouse and his ilk, seem to want to live
in accordance with the Old Testament way of doing things; therefore,
they desire to have homosexuals "stoned" so to say!

Insofar as it pertains to sin the law is nothing more than a tutor to show us our need for God. We are not condemned by it. Not even murderers. So, if you're argument is that because of that then we should not apply the death penalty to rapists, kidnappers, adulterers and homosexuals then we shouldn't apply it to murderers either. Your argument is inconsistent. You're a hypocrite and can't even figure out why. You have no ability to reason.

As I've said before, in those days if one is caught in adultery, they
were stoned! If an unruly child is unrepentant in his ways, he was
stoned!

An unrepentant child was stoned? Really? Care to post the passage containing that law?

Why do some believe that it's okay to "stone" homosexuals, but they
don't seem to have a problem with adulterers or unruly children?

I do have a problem with adulterers. I think they should be executed too.

But the Bible doesn't say one whit about executing unruly children.

It seems bias, at best! If Lighthouse and his ilk wish to live under the
Old Testament way of doing things then, why not advocate All the
laws during that period? We are living through an era of God's (free-gift) Grace!

You're an idiot if you think I don't advocate all the criminal laws from the Levitical Code. In fact, everyone on TOL who advocates for the criminalization of homosexuality also advocates for the criminalization of adultery; and those who advocate for the DP for queers also advocates it for adulterers.

If you read the laws I posted in my previous post you'd see that [in the second one]. Adultery was covered.

And every single person on TOL who agrees with me also believes that there is forgiveness for the sins committed, in Christ by grace through faith. For every single sin, including those we advocate be crimes, even the ones punishable by death.

But you don't care about the truth, because you're nothing but a simple minded troll.

Paul never advocated the death penalty for homosexuals!

Romans 1, idiot.

He was
sent with the message of God's Grace (offered) to the gentiles! That
was and is OUR message for today! Not living under the law and all
of its contents!

Regarding sin, not crime, lackwit.

If one wishes to change the law throughout the land, don't use the Old Testament
as your basis!

If you could actually support that with Scripture you would; you can't, because there isn't any, and you're an ignorant fool.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I annoy you because I know the Bible and you don't, you simplistic little troll.


Not a single shred of this has anything to do with how God is dealing with us, or how He dealt with other people before. It has absolutely zero to do with sin.


Insofar as it pertains to sin the law is nothing more than a tutor to show us our need for God. We are not condemned by it. Not even murderers. So, if you're argument is that because of that then we should not apply the death penalty to rapists, kidnappers, adulterers and homosexuals then we shouldn't apply it to murderers either. Your argument is inconsistent. You're a hypocrite and can't even figure out why. You have no ability to reason.


An unrepentant child was stoned? Really? Care to post the passage containing that law?


I do have a problem with adulterers. I think they should be executed too.

But the Bible doesn't say one whit about executing unruly children.


You're an idiot if you think I don't advocate all the criminal laws from the Levitical Code. In fact, everyone on TOL who advocates for the criminalization of homosexuality also advocates for the criminalization of adultery; and those who advocate for the DP for queers also advocates it for adulterers.

If you read the laws I posted in my previous post you'd see that [in the second one]. Adultery was covered.

And every single person on TOL who agrees with me also believes that there is forgiveness for the sins committed, in Christ by grace through faith. For every single sin, including those we advocate be crimes, even the ones punishable by death.

But you don't care about the truth, because you're nothing but a simple minded troll.


Romans 1, idiot.


Regarding sin, not crime, lackwit.


If you could actually support that with Scripture you would; you can't, because there isn't any, and you're an ignorant fool.

Sorry, I didn't have the patience to read all of what you said here!
I'm almost certain it's more of the same! Like I said before, "I
really don't respect your opinion and find you rather uninteresting!"
However, I do appreciate your continued practice of attempting
to annoy the daylights out of me; it shows you have a degree
of consistency in your motives!

 

[Granite]

Interesting that these would-be stone throwers always talk tough but when you ask for specifics they've got nothing.

They're stuck in fantasy land, and they know it. That goes a long way towards explaining their anger: The zealots realize how powerless they are, and they're gnashing their teeth.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Lighthouse certainly enjoys lowering himself to the point
of unbridled name calling! He sounds as if he's suffering
from copious amounts of uncontrollable frustration and
angst! Is it possible for him, to even have a single discussion
without resorting to angry name calling? He's a bit uptight
and should try to do some relaxation techniques!

Lighthouse, I wish you no ill will; I'd like to see you
a little less fussy about others! Hopefully, you'll
work on that, and perhaps learn to compromise
a bit! As you get older, you'll find out that life
is easier if you learn to cope with your
inner turmoils, with a little more self-restraint!

 

[Granite]

Lighthouse certainly enjoys lowering himself to the point
of unbridled name calling! He sounds as if he's suffering
from copious amounts of uncontrollable frustration and
angst! Is it possible for him, to even have a single discussion
without resorting to angry name calling? He's a bit uptight
and should try to do some relaxation techniques!

No, it's impossible for him to act otherwise. There's actually good reason for this, and because of his condition I've put him on ignore for good. The guy is literally, completely incapable of

a) admitting fault
b) acting mature
c) refraining from name calling

And so on. He's a big, angry, silly, naive, overgrown kid. Best overlooked.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

No, it's impossible for him to act otherwise. There's actually good reason for this, and because of his condition I've put him on ignore for good. The guy is literally, completely incapable of

a) admitting fault
b) acting mature
c) refraining from name calling

And so on. He's a big, angry, silly, naive, overgrown kid. Best overlooked.

I see!

 

[dave3712]

Homosexuality is a sin, one of many! The Bible says it's an
abomination, and I agree on both of those assessments!
However, we're not living under the law, nor is God dealing
with mankind the same way today as He did with the House
of Israel in the Old Testament!

The gentiles (us) were never even given the law! God's message
of forgiveness, mercy and eternal life is offered today, to the Jews
as well as the gentiles! Lighthouse and his ilk, seem to want to live
in accordance with the Old Testament way of doing things; therefore,
they desire to have homosexuals "stoned" so to say!

As I've said before, in those days if one is caught in adultery, they
were stoned! If an unruly child is unrepentant in his ways, he was
stoned!

Why do some believe that it's okay to "stone" homosexuals, but they
don't seem to have a problem with adulterers or unruly children?

It seems bias, at best! If Lighthouse and his ilk wish to live under the
Old Testament way of doing things then, why not advocate All the
laws during that period? We are living through an era of God's (free-gift) Grace!

Paul never advocated the death penalty for homosexuals! He was
sent with the message of God's Grace (offered) to the gentiles! That
was and is OUR message for today! Not living under the law and all
of its contents!

If one wishes to change the law throughout the land, don't use the Old Testament
as your basis!

The sin which homosexuality extends into the community is by promoting sexual promiscuity in general, and talking about the Gay Life, as they call it.

If these gays did things which are sinful in their own adult bedrooms remaining secret to themselves that would be tolerable.

But without Social Force that even threatens direct physical harm, they will advance their program.
They are the tip of the iceberg and the warning signal that the women have suppressed the men with a Politically Correct agenda of Rules passed by the public opinion the women have manufactured without discussion about the Child Abuse that comes with the liberalization of the Sexual Mores.

The Feminists require liberal sexual mores so they can essentially add to the cost of receiving their sexual favoritism, the power t direct the society into a socialism economically and a whoredom that abused their own children in every way.

It is good that queers defend their OUT in public demands so we can examine the results of raising kids seeped in the sexual irresponsibility called sexual freedom.

 

[dave3712]

...harsh words are the tool of Christianity...

...harsh words are the tool of Christianity...

I annoy you because I know the Bible and you don't, you simplistic little troll.


Not a single shred of this has anything to do with how God is dealing with us, or how He dealt with other people before. It has absolutely zero to do with sin.


Insofar as it pertains to sin the law is nothing more than a tutor to show us our need for God. We are not condemned by it. Not even murderers. So, if you're argument is that because of that then we should not apply the death penalty to rapists, kidnappers, adulterers and homosexuals then we shouldn't apply it to murderers either. Your argument is inconsistent. You're a hypocrite and can't even figure out why. You have no ability to reason.


An unrepentant child was stoned? Really? Care to post the passage containing that law?


I do have a problem with adulterers. I think they should be executed too.

But the Bible doesn't say one whit about executing unruly children.


You're an idiot if you think I don't advocate all the criminal laws from the Levitical Code. In fact, everyone on TOL who advocates for the criminalization of homosexuality also advocates for the criminalization of adultery; and those who advocate for the DP for queers also advocates it for adulterers.

If you read the laws I posted in my previous post you'd see that [in the second one]. Adultery was covered.

And every single person on TOL who agrees with me also believes that there is forgiveness for the sins committed, in Christ by grace through faith. For every single sin, including those we advocate be crimes, even the ones punishable by death.

But you don't care about the truth, because you're nothing but a simple minded troll.


Romans 1, idiot.


Regarding sin, not crime, lackwit.


If you could actually support that with Scripture you would; you can't, because there isn't any, and you're an ignorant fool.

Harsh words, the Truth is,..
...and the reaction to telling the Truth to the people lying does bring change and dangerous hatred to the fore.

I believe the Muslims concur with this description of killing sexually promiscuous adults, and that does include adulterous people and even scantly dressed harlots too.

Christianity insists that the Truth, expressed without violence, will set us free of such corrupting behavior simply by telling the Truth about how gays and feminists hurt our children:

 

[Catholic Crusader]

He doesn't have one, along with anyone else who would even support the idea...........

"He" (me) does not support the idea. In fact I have not even discussed the idea. The thread subject is perverted. The very idea of executing people who suffer from a disorder reeks of Nazism. Anyone seriously participating in such a discussion has a perverted mind.

zoo22, annabennetti, YOU... ...you all need your heads examined.

 

[xAvarice]

You're an idiot if you think I don't advocate all the criminal laws from the Levitical Code. In fact, everyone on TOL who advocates for the criminalization of homosexuality also advocates for the criminalization of adultery; and those who advocate for the DP for queers also advocates it for adulterers.

You advocate this?

Spoiler

Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11) [Normal penalty.]

2. Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13) [Normal penalty.]

3. Eating fat (3:17) [That one's "a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live." All fat is to be saved for offerings to God. Normal penalty.]

4. Eating blood (3:17) [Normal penalty]

5. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve witnessed (5:1) ["They will be held responsible."]

6. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve been told about (5:1) [Which sounds like hearsay. At any rate, "they shall be held responsible."]

7. Touching an unclean animal (5:2) [NIV translates this as touching "the carcass" of an unclean animal. So if Rover dies, or you're a worker in a pork plant, you're in trouble here. Normal penalty.]

8. Carelessly making an oath (5:4) [Even if you don't realize you have. Normal penalty.]

9. Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2) [Return the item and a 20% penalty, plus normal penalty.]

10. Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3) [Return the item and a 20% penalty, plus normal penalty.]

11. Bringing unauthorised fire before God (10:1) [God will smite you.]

12. Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6) ["You will die" and God will be angry at everyone. May only apply to the priesthood.]

13. Tearing your clothes (10:6) ["You will die" and God will be angry at everyone. May only apply to the priesthood.]

14. Drinking alcohol in holy places (bit of a problem for Catholics, this ‘un) (10:9) ["You will die." May only apply to the priesthood.]

15. Eating an animal which doesn’t both chew cud and has a divided hoof (cf: camel, rabbit, pig) (11:4-7) ["You will be unclean.]

16. Touching the carcass of any of the above (problems here for rugby) (11:8) ["You will be unclean."]

17. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12) ["You will be unclean."]

18. Eating – or touching the carcass of - eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19) ["You will be unclean."]

19. Eating – or touching the carcass of – flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22) ["You will be unclean."]

20. Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (good news for cats) (11:27) ["You will be unclean." Also applies to touching their carcasses.]

21. Eating – or touching the carcass of – the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard,the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29) ["You will be unclean."]

22. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42) ["You will be unclean."]

23. Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4) [Actually, she's unclean a week, and then another 33 days. Then she has to offer up a sacrifice.]

24. Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5) [Actually, she's unclean a week, and then another 66 days. Then she has to offer up a sacrifice.]

25. Having sex with your mother (18:7) [The penalty for all the sexual sins in ch. 18 is that the participants are to be "cut off" from their people. Some have additional penalties mentioned below.]

26. Having sex with your father’s wife (18:8) [In 20:11, both are to be put to death.]

27. Having sex with your sister (18:9) [In 20:17, if you marry her, both are to be "publicly removed from their people"]

28. Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)

29. Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)

30. Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13) [In 20:19, he will be held responsible for the dishonor.]

31. Having sex with your uncle’s wife (18:14) [In 20:20, they are held responsible for the dishonor, "they will die childless"]

32. Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15) [In 20:12, both are to be put to death.]

33. Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16) [In 20:21, if you marry her, "they will be childless."]

34. Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (bad news for Alan Clark) (18:17) [No specific penalty given, but per 20:14 if you marry both of them, all three of you are to be "burned in fire."]

35. Marrying your wife’s sister while your wife still lives (18:18)

36. Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19) [15:24 simply says the man will be considered unclean for 7 days. In 20:18, "Both of them are to be cut off from their people"]

37. Having sex with your neighbour’s wife (18:20) [In 20:10, both are to be put to death.]

38. Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21) [In 20:2, the person is to be stoned to death.]

39. Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (18:22) [In 20:13, both are to be put to death.]

40. Having sex with an animal (18:23) [In 20:15, both are to be killed.]

41. Making idols or “metal gods” (19:4) [No penalty given.]

42. Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9) [To be left for the poor. No penalty given.]

43. Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10) [To be left for the poor. No penalty given.]

44. Stealing (19:11) [No penalty given.]

45. Lying (19:11) [No penalty given.]

46. Swearing falsely on God’s name (19:12) [No penalty given.]

47. Defrauding your neighbour (19:13) [No penalty given.]

48. Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (not well observed these days) (19:13) [No penalty given.]

49. Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14) [No penalty given.]

50. Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15) [No penalty given.]

51. Spreading slander (19:16) [No penalty given.]

52. Doing anything to endanger a neighbour’s life (19:16) [No penalty given.]

53. Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18) [No penalty given.]

54. Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19) [No penalty given.]

55. Cross-breeding animals (19:19) [No penalty given.]

56. Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19) [No penalty given.]

57. Sleeping with another man’s slave (19:20) ["Due punishment," but not death, just a ram for sacrifice.]

58. Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23) [No penalty given. May only apply to fruit trees planted in Israel.]

59. Practising divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26) [No penalty, but in 20:6 they will be "cut off from their people" by God. In 20:27, they are to be stoned to death.]

60. Trimming your beard (19:27) [No penalty given.]

61. Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27) [No penalty given.]

62. Getting tattoos (19:28) [No penalty given.]

63. Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29) ["The land will turn to prostitution." No other penalty given.]

64. Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31) [No penalty given.]

65. Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32) [No penalty given.]

66. Mistreating foreigners – “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born” (19:33-34) [No penalty given.]

67. Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36) [No penalty given.]

68. Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9) [Death, as noted.]

69. Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13) [No penalty given.]

70. Entering a place where there’s a dead body as a priest (21:11) [I.e., if you're a priest. No penalty given.]

71. Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28) [May apply only to sacrificial animals. No penalty given.]

72. Working on the Sabbath (23:3) [No penalty given.]

73. Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14) [Death.]

74. Inflicting an injury; killing someone else’s animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22) [Killing someone means death. Injuring someone mean punishment in kind. Killing or injuring another's animal means punishment in kind.]

75. Selling land permanently (25:23) [No penalty given.]

76. Selling an Israelite as a slave (foreigners are fine) (25:42) [No penalty given.]