Everyone Will Die For His Own Sin

[God's Truth]

Oh right, no I do still sin, but hopefully not wilfully, and John said this

1 John 1

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.*If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us*our*sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Are you trying to judge me and condemn?

That scripture is where John is speaking about those WHO ARE NOT SAVED.

John is explaining how Jesus came for those who admit to sinning.

 

[marhig]

Do you know what living is?

Well of course I do, but there are two Livings, there's is living in by the will of the flesh, and there's living by the will of God.

If we are living by the will of God, then we should be dead to our old life, dead to our flesh.

 

[marhig]

We die to Christ then live.

We do, but we also die daily to sin as we turn from sin daily. And the Holy Spirit helps us and gives us the power to overcome.

 

[God's Truth]

Well of course I do, but there are two Livings, there's is living in by the will of the flesh, and there's living by the will of God.

If we are living by the will of God, then we should be dead to our old life, dead to our flesh.

You keep speaking of dying.

I am speaking about living after dying.

 

[God's Truth]

We do, but we also die daily to sin as we turn from sin daily. And the Holy Spirit helps us and gives us the power to overcome.

I live daily.

 

[marhig]

Are you trying to judge me and condemn?

That scripture is where John is speaking about those WHO ARE NOT SAVED.

John is explaining how Jesus came for those who admit to sinning.

No GT John is talking about those who know God and Christ have a look at the chapter if you don't believe me.

 

[God's Truth]

No GT John is talking about those who know God and Christ have a look at the chapter if you don't believe me.

Do you really think I have not looked at that chapter?

John is speaking to BELIEVERS.

John is telling them that he, and them alike, were NEVER saved if they had NOT ADMITTED to being sinners.

That is not about continuing to sin. That is about repenting to be saved.

 

[Nick M]

So you deny the substitutionary atonement of the Lord Jesus?

The vast majority of "Christians" do. To them Christianity is a changed life, when it is really an exchanged life.

 

[God's Truth]

The vast majority of "Christians" do. To them Christianity is a changed life, when it is really an exchanged life.

If our life has not changed, how are we any different from the unsaved?

 

[marhig]

You keep speaking of dying.

I am speaking about living after dying.

Yes and I'm alive in God.

But GT doesn't a wrong thought ever come into your mind? It does in mine, and before I knew God I would have let it get worse and worse, but now I know God I have the strength to nip it in the bud, because the Holy Spirit is giving me a conscience, and helping me to stop doing what I'm doing, so that thought is then dead to me, gone.

Things like this happen every day, and every day as I deny these things and obey God and not my flesh, then it is put to death in me by the power of the Holy Spirit, thus I am dying daily. Can you see what I'm trying to say?

 

[marhig]

I live daily.

Good so do I in God, but my flesh dies daily as I obey him and live by his will.

 

[God's Truth]

Good so do I in God, but my flesh dies daily as I obey him and live by his will.

I live daily.

Paul had to literally face death daily.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes and I'm alive in God.

But GT doesn't a wrong thought ever come into your mind? It does in mine, and before I knew God I would have let it get worse and worse, but now I know God I have the strength to nip it in the bud, because the Holy Spirit is giving me a conscience, and helping me to stop doing what I'm doing, so that thought is then dead to me, gone.

Things like this happen every day, and every day as I deny these things and obey God and not my flesh, then it is put to death in me by the power of the Holy Spirit, thus I am dying daily. Can you see what I'm trying to say?

Sounds to me more like you are living daily.

We died and now live.

 

[marhig]

Do you really think I have not looked at that chapter?

John is speaking to BELIEVERS.

John is telling them that he, and them alike, were NEVER saved if they had NOT ADMITTED to being sinners.

That is not about continuing to sin. That is about repenting to be saved.

I'm sorry GT but we all sin, but as I said, I hope that I don't wilfully sin. Although I'm not perfect, and there are still things in my life that I need God's help with.

 

[marhig]

I live daily.

Paul had to literally face death daily.

He didn't say he faced death daily GT, he said he died daily!

 

[marhig]

Sound to me more like you are living daily.

We died and now live.

Yes I agree with you, but can't you see that we still have to deny sin and obey God every day? We didn't just do it once and that's it, did we?

 

[God's Truth]

He didn't say he faced death daily GT, he said he died daily!

I face death every day--yes, just as surely as I boast about you in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes I agree with you, but can't you see that we still have to deny sin and obey God every day? We didn't just do it once and that's it, did we?

I passed over.

 

[marhig]

I passed over.

So are you saying that you never get tempted and tried?

 

[God's Truth]

So are you saying that you never get tempted and tried?

"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.