Arthur Brain
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I don't trust any given news source alone until it's corroborated and verified. What's wrong with that?
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Exactly how do you "know" when "it's corroborated and verified"? By trusting a "given news source" to tell you "it's corroborated and verified"?
It's gobbledegook.
I don't think AB sees the flaw in circular reasoning.
Arthur Brain
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There isn't a problem unless you rely on wingnut outlets for "news" and take them at face value. It's pretty straightforward really. Find some non wingnut source or non tabloid press and start from there. Corroborate claims or articles made with other non wingnut press and if the matter is upheld among multiple non wingnut sources with cites and evidence attached then the likelihood of veracity is pretty darned good. Sometimes even the tabloid press get things right but it should never be a first port of call.
Arthur Brain
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Of course I do, it's why it's not something that anyone can reasonably accuse me of.
How do I determine what is not a, as you say, "wingnut outlet" or "tabloid press"?
So if enough people are saying something, does that "corroborate" it? Does that make what is being "corroborated" true?
What if you and I disagree on what is considered "wingnut"? Who's right?
Arthur Brain
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Eh, use some discernment, it's not that difficult or shouldn't be. If you want to be spoon fed some garbage that whets your appetite then TGP is your go to or rumble etc. If you're actually interested in actual news then you won;t touch far right or even far left news outlets with a barge pole. You'll do as I've described.
TGP is a wingnut source. If you wanna invest in it then up to you but you sure can't claim to be interested in actual news. It's discredited to the hily with more than good reason.
My discernment is telling me that the sites you call "wingnut" are not actually wingnut.
So who's right, you or me?
Why should I believe you?
I don't use rumble.
The only time I read TGP articles is when they're posted here, and even then, I don't always.
Problem: what happens when a news source you, Arthur Brain, consider to be posting "actual news" does not post "actual news," but instead feeds a narrative that is altered in some way to be untrue or misleading?
Let's say I concede this point, just for the sake of the argument.
So what?
What if the "wingnut" source is actually posting truth, but because you ignore it, because you don't consider it to be a poster of "actual news," you become mislead by the "actual news" source feeding you misinformation, or barring that, even never becoming aware of something that is going on that you should pay attention to, because it's important in some way?
Because you say so?
Who made you the authority on which site is "credible" or "discredited"?
Arthur Brain
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TGP is as wingnut as it gets so if you deny that along with sites like 'rumble' then it's me who's right on that score. They're discredited and lampooned with more than enough reason.
The reason why it's advisable to cross reference news through multiple outlets and those with credibility or if you want - the least bias is to get the most accurate version of events. Tabloid press ain't gonna cut it unless its a high profile event that no papers not gonna cover. Had a fair few in the UK recently with the likes of Boris Johnson etc. So there are occasions where the tabloid press get things right - but as before - it should never be a first port of call and for thoroughly discredited rags like TGP: If you're discerning you wouldn't even entertain it.
7djengo7
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Heeding @Arthur Brain's ravings should, according to @Arthur Brain's ravings, be everyone's first (and only) port of call.
Arthur Brain
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Good one!
7djengo7
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And true, at that!
Arthur Brain
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Nah.
7djengo7
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Arthur Brain
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Dear oh dear...
Says, who, exactly? You?
Because you say so?
Says, who, exactly? You?
Says, who, exactly? You?
Because you say so?
Arthur Brain
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Hardly just me JR. Far from it. Frankly, anyone with some objective discernment can see straight through TGP. Laughable is being kind.
Arthur Brain
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Oh please. Do a bit of research. TGP is a joke.