Well, many a rapist has gotten off scott free by maligning the victim to such an extent that a jury decided that the slut asked for it.
In the case of the chick who allowed the guy to keep pawing her and just laid there, the slut did ask for it, called implied consent,
she didnt object. So there was no rape.
To a chick that got so drunk she passed out and then was taken advantage off after passed out, hes a rapist and should get the max punishment AND shes guilty of poor judgment to the point that she suffered that horrible consequence of her actions.
See, its not either/or, they are both guilty but both guilty of something different, hes no less a rapist because shes guilty of stupidity.
So I certainly hold to each person being responsible for his/her own words and deeds.
yes, same thing im arguing and one doesnt lesson the other no matter how many times, others keep asserting falsely that one cancels the other, it doesnt.
I worry about the rapist being able to get away with blaming the victim.
He can blame her all day, but he still chose to rape, when its actually rape, its wrong to be so overzealous that one locks up a man just because the word rape is used.
Anyway, all of these far out scenarios of rape are only representative of a small portion of cases.
Which do not negate innocent men going to prison for rape, and do not negate women being told pretty much that they should suffer no consequences at all of their own actions.
The point is being missed and at this point im thinking its deliberate on some peoples part here.
I am addressing those cases wherein force was used regardless of the victims protestations or perhaps out of fear a lack of protestations.
Which arent being discussed and has also been said that in no way is the victim at fault, over and over ad nauseum, yet keeps being presented as what these scenerios are, falsely.
In the 50's we were told not to fight because that only angered our attackers.
I think thats poor advice if its not more detailed, because if you dont say no, or stop, or try to get them to stop, you can be implying consent.
A woman is ALWAYS at a disadvantage when a man is aggressive in his goal to rape.
And every guy who tries more than once, is not a rapist.
And yes some women are stupid.
and can suffer consequences of their stupidity, which is the point, which doesnt aleviate the responsibility of the other people in no way whatever.