keypurr
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Wrongo, keypops...
ο νικων κληρονομησει ταυτα και εσομαι αυτω θεος και αυτος εσται μοι υιος
Like you, I do not read Greek either. Besides the Greek can distort truth as the originals were in Aramaic.
Wrongo, keypops...
ο νικων κληρονομησει ταυτα και εσομαι αυτω θεος και αυτος εσται μοι υιος
Yes , you have to believe in the Trinity to be a Christian ,
To know God is to know he is triune
Yes , you have to believe in the Trinity to be a Christian ,
To know God is to know he is triune
yup , one God.When asked, "Which is the most important commandment of all?" Jesus answered, "The most important of all the commandments is, hear, o Israel, the Lord our God is One." (Mark 12:29)
The Apostles did not believe in a Trinity.
yup , one God.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Commentary on John 1:1.
SpoilerThe correct translation is (Divine.) The word (God) is a resent invention for the English language.
Pantheion
Greek pantheion, from pan 'all' + theion 'Divine Eternal-s' (from theios 'divine.')
From Greek aion, meaning Eternal, for an infinite amount of time Pantheion: Pan/the/ion. All Divine Eternal-s. The word “All” makes it plural.
aeon or aion or eon
1. An immeasurably long period of time. From Greek, Aion, an infinitely long time.
Greek word TON and THEON.
From the Scripture4All program. Link: www.scripture4all.org/
The Greek word "TON" is translated 1583 times as "the;" And 18 times as "the -one." It is used before nouns to mean a {certain-one-person-s,} or place, or thing. However, different translations of Greek do not always agree. That is the reason for my interpretation of John 1:1 as "the only Divine Eternal." In English the word “one” can also be translated as “only.” TON: The only. THEON: Divine Eternal.
John 1:1
Greek:
en arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton theon kai theos en ho logos
Interlinear:
en (in) arche (beginning) en (was) ho (the) logos (Word) kai (and) ho (the) logos (Word) en (was) pos (toward or with) ton (TON is a special definite article "the" meaning the one and only, it appears as TON instead of O in the Greek) theon (Divine Eternal) kai (and) theos (Divine) en (was) ho (the) logos (Word)
In English we have:
In beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the (one or only) Divine Eternal, and Divine was the Word.
The defining article "a" must be supplied for the English language, to define that there is another Divine that is not the "Divine Eternal."
Why do translators drop off the definite article TON (the one or only) before Divine Eternal?
Theon and Theos
They both mean Divine, but in different cases. Theos is the nominative, Theon is accusative. Another form is Theou, which is genitive.
John 1:1 reads: “In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [τὸν θεὸν, (TON THEON) literally, the only Divine Eternal], and the Word was divine. [θεὸς].”
In the first instance (“the Word was with the only Divine Eternal”) it is in the accusative case and thus is spelled θεὸν [theon] But in the second occurrence it is in the nominative case, and so it is spelled θεὸς [theos]
Ton Theon was also applied to Zeus, meaning "The Only Divine Eternal."
You are stuck in your obvious misinterpretation of Scripture. And it is You're not your.
Truth is much shorter
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Truth is much shorter
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The Apostles did not believe in a Trinity.
Like you, I do not read Greek either. Besides the Greek can distort truth as the originals were in Aramaic.
Slice it, dice it any way you want.
The Apostles did not believe in a Trinity.
There's no such thing as " believing " in anything , to be a Christian ! The words believe , believer , and believing are mistranslations of the Greek word pisteuo .
The Greek has "and God was the Word" not "and the Word was God"
Now how does that make any difference?