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Fact Check: Video From Georgia Does NOT Show Suitcases Filled With Ballots Suspiciously Pulled From Under A Table; Polls Watchers Were NOT Told To Leave


Does security camera video show a Fulton County, Georgia, election supervisor suspiciously pulling suitcases filled with ballots from under a table after telling poll workers to leave the room? And did that election official continue to illegally count ballots without required monitors in a manner that calls into question Joe Biden's narrow win over Donald Trump in Georgia? No, those claim are not true: Two high-level officials with the Georgia secretary of state's office and a state elections board monitor each told Lead Stories that their investigations revealed nothing suspicious in the video. The officials said the ballots seen in the video were in regular ballot containers -- not suitcases -- and they had been removed from their envelopes and processed while news media and election observers for the Republican Party and Trump campaign were present. The media and party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night, but they apparently followed workers who left once their job of opening envelopes was completed, the chief investigator for the secretary of state told Lead Stories. The observers were free to return at anytime, she said. Georgia law allows observers, but does not require them to be there for ballots to be counted, she said.

Gabriel Sterling, a Republican and Georgia's voting system implementation manager, told Lead Stories during a phone call on December 3, 2020 that what can be seen on the video is normal procedure and nothing looks "bizarre or odd."

Election workers known as "cutters" because their job was to open absentee ballot envelopes and verify ballots for eventual scanning and counting were dismissed for the night sometime after 10 p.m. on November 3, 2020, because their work for the evening had been completed, he explained. Those workers who remained were responsible for conducting the scanning portion of the process, since ballots could not be left without being scanned overnight. He said:

If you look at the video tape, the work you see is the work you would expect, which is you take the sealed suitcase looking things in, you place the ballots on the scanner in manageable batches and you scan them.
Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state, told Lead Stories during a phone call on December 3, 2020, that the ballots were in standard containers, and the work during the time in question had nothing to do with pulling ballots from under a table. She said:

There wasn't a bin that had ballots in it under that table. It was an empty bin and the ballots from it were actually out on the table when the media were still there, and then it was placed back into the box when the media were still there and placed next to the table.
There was never an announcement made to the media and other observers about the counting being over for the night and them needing to leave, according to Watson, who was provided information by the media liaison, who was present. She said they just followed the "cutters" as they left.

She said:

Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do. And It was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working.
In addition, she explained that the only ballots that were scanned after the media and other observers had left were those that had already been opened in front of these observers.

Contrary to the claim, the ballots were not in suitcases, she said. The black boxes and bins seen in the video are the standard container used for the ballot counting process.
 

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@Jefferson there are so many stories now of fraud and cheating and lawsuits that its hard to keep up with. I don't want to start redundant threads, and yet each one is a new thing.

 

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Was going to make a new thread, but this one will do:

 

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Wrong . Trump and the republicans tried to steal the election from Biden, just as they did from Hillary Clinton four years ago . Fool me
once . . . . . But this time, the democrats were prepared . Also, many people who voted fro Trump four years ago realized how incredibly dumb they had been to vote for Trump for years ago . They voted against their own interests ! The included many people who consider themselves to be conservative republicans who have always voted republican . They did the right thing and voted for Biden, who is anything but a "left-wing extremist ".
In 2016, the republican party used these dirty tactics to elect Trump . Gerrymandering. Ruthless suppression of minority votes . Many blacks and hispanics voted for Hillary Clinton, but their votes were never counted . And Trump behaved like a despicable demagogue, demonizing Hispanics, Muslims etc , appealed to the worst instincts of many white people in America , created an atmosphere of mindless fear and loathing of anyone who is not a white Christian . He is a certified pathological liar .
No, Trump is not as monstrously evil as Hitler, but he IS frighteningly SIMILAR to Hitler . And he IS evil .
But last November, Trump and the republicans were hoisted with their own petards . And Trums claims of the democrats "stealing the election form hm " are 100 % bogus . Joe Biden won the election fair and square . He won both he popular and electoral vote .
 

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Wrong . Trump and the republicans tried to steal the election from Biden, just as they did from Hillary Clinton four years ago .

And yet, there is no evidence you can produce that supports this (rather absurd) claim.

On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that the opposite is true, means, motive, opportunity, and hard evidence that the machines were counting in Biden's favor..

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once . . . . . But this time, the democrats were prepared . Also, many people who voted fro Trump four years ago realized how incredibly dumb they had been to vote for Trump for years ago . They voted against their own interests ! The included many people who consider themselves to be conservative republicans who have always voted republican . They did the right thing and voted for Biden, who is anything but a "left-wing extremist ".
In 2016, the republican party used these dirty tactics to elect Trump . Gerrymandering. Ruthless suppression of minority votes . Many blacks and hispanics voted for Hillary Clinton, but their votes were never counted . And Trump behaved like a despicable demagogue, demonizing Hispanics, Muslims etc , appealed to the worst instincts of many white people in America , created an atmosphere of mindless fear and loathing of anyone who is not a white Christian . He is a certified pathological liar .
No, Trump is not as monstrously evil as Hitler, but he IS frighteningly SIMILAR to Hitler . And he IS evil .
But last November, Trump and the republicans were hoisted with their own petards . And Trums claims of the democrats "stealing the election form hm " are 100 % bogus . Joe Biden won the election fair and square . He won both he popular and electoral vote .

Try looking at other news sources besides CNN for once. Wake up, Horn.
 

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If the claims of massive fraud had some basis, one would expect that at least some courts would have at least considered them. But they don't- and they didn't .

Now we even have a Republican congressman leaving the party over this attempt by Trump to steal the election:

Michigan Rep. Paul Mitchell quits Republican Party over Trump's election fraud claims​

yes, I got this headline off one of the mainstream media sources. It is still a fact. Here's a quote:
"unacceptable for political candidates to treat our election system as though we are a third-world nation and incite distrust of something so basic as the sanctity of our vote."
 
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