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Could Dogs detect Covid-19?
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Liar
That's fine though. It tells me you have nothing else of substance to contribute.
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Yes, Eider! How about trying to read and learn something for yourself instead of believing every mindless thing anyone happens to tell you. You're just the sort of moron that would let the next Hitler come into power. You'd almost certainly vote for him and go to his rallies!
Nazism, also known as National Socialism or Fascism is just about as far left as you can get. It isn't Marxist which is all about class envy and economic equality but it is very very collectivist. It was socially, economically and politically all about the German society subordinating their personal interests to the collective good (precisely how this shut down has been sold to the entire world, by the way!). Fascism, including Nazi style Fascism has almost nothing at all in common with the right, which is all about personal responsibility and individual freedom from any such collectivist kind of thinking. Fascism dictatorially insists on a strongly regimented and planned society that forcibly oppresses any form of descent. While the right or conservatism, on the other hand, is about private property rights, the rule of law and capitalism all of which Fascism is directly and definitively apposed to.
The reason Nazism is said to be far right is nothing more than a rewrite of history because the left doesn't want to be associated with the likes of Hitler and Mussolini. People think that because it's apposed to Communism that it must be right wing. Only fools believe such vapid stupidity.
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than sitting in your garage makes you a car. Hitler was a murderer. The only people who have him beat in the category of mass murder are all communists, the only thing on the political spectrum that is arguably further to the left than Hitler's government.
Clete
That's strange. I could've sworn that the "Unite the Right rally" was organized by neo-Nazi fascists.
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Hitler was a socialist.
If you think that Hitler was a believer in Christ, you're retarded.
eider
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Another one! Let's see, you've called me asinine, naive, stupid, an idiot and now moron.
You deserve some real truth from me for that. Just a little.
I'm retired and have never been to a political rally in my life.
You're useless with your guesses.
Nazism was (and still is..... read User Name 's post to you) extremely far right, but in my opinion you are so extreme as to be beyond even that, which is possibly why you see Nazism to your left. You would be a joke if you weren't so shockingly extreme.
Taken to extremes such as I perceive in you, 'right' is a level of careless liberalism which reaches all the way to some kind of psycho anarchy.
You howl and wail about having to obey community rules like a bawling spoiled brat.
Clearly not, Clete....... as I read your nasty mouthed comments towards myself and your shrieking 'liar' at other members I truly do wonder what kind of Christian you might be. ......just sayin'....
Good..... you actually got something nearly right. Hitler was a mass murderer......... over 13 million concentration camp murders plus millions of innocent German people.
But that raises a question. Why do you think that Hitler left the Vatican Estate and Catholics alone when he held such power over all of them?
He wan't your kind of Christian, Clete, whatever that is, but he obviously felt that he still held to some kind of Christianity.
eider
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Hitler was a right wing extremist, just like modern Neo Nazis.
Do read User Name 's post above these one.......
And that's where you just messed up. Instead of chucking your insults about, just think........
Do you point at many other Creeds and Churches and call out 'They are not Christians!' ????
Well, do you? ?? It's Yes or No. ????
Hitler obviously still held feelings for Catholic Christianity because although in total control of the Vatican for years........... he left it be!
Hitler didn't like some Creeds, it's true....... he surely hated JWs.......... murdered thousands and thousands of them. But I know other Christians who pick and choose who they think a Christian is.
Now........... what do you think about the possibility that dogs might be able to identify Covid-19 sufferers? Eh?
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So you think that a socialist is right wing?
This may be your dumbest post ever....
Christians do not advocate and execute mass murder. I'm really surprised that you don't know that.
I think that I very much agree with Clete.
eider
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Do you really believe that Hitler really meant that he was a left wing socialist? Really?
It's called double think........ it gets votes, and Hitler sure got votes. Then he showed his real colours.
Debating against you is still not difficult.....
Good........ so you'll never support the launching of nuclear weapons ....... excellent.
Well, if research shows that dogs can detect covid in folks, then I expect that President Trump would want to use them for sure, because they could help him open up his country more quickly. In which case you may find yourself being checked out........ by a very clever dog. And it would be best if you comply with any requests at such a time, if that happens.
If the shoe fits!
I wasn't a guess and you missed the point - probably intentionally.
No, it flatly is not. It is a totalitarian form of government with a collectivist political policy and a planned social structure and economy. It has nothing to do with the hallmarks of the right which is individual determination and responsibility and a free economy (capitalism). Hitler and Mussolini both hated everything about what the right stands for.
Shockingly extreme?
In what way?
Do you mean that I believe the government should stay the hell our of your life except to protect your rights from those who would violate them (e.g. criminals and foreign enemies)?
Do you mean that I believe you have the right and sole responsibility to live your life the way you see fit?
Do you mean that I believe that God is real and that you and I both will stand before Him to give an account for not only our beliefs but the actions those beliefs led too?
Do you mean that I believe stealing is a crime and that the government has no right to play Robin Hood and take, by force, the money that I have earned in order to give it to somone who did not earn it?
Do you mean that I believe that the government has no right to tell me what goods and services that I must offer and the price I'm allowed to charge for it?
Do you mean that I believe that criminals should meat a punishment that fits the crime that they've committed?
For which of these am I too radical for you? Which of these would the Nazi's have NOT put me to death for?
"The community", what ever that undefinable blob of meaninglessness is, has no right to my life precisely because it cannot be defined except in terms that makes someone else's "need" a claim check on my life.Taken to extremes such as I perceive in you, 'right' is a level of careless liberalism which reaches all the way to some kind of psycho anarchy.
You howl and wail about having to obey community rules like a bawling spoiled brat.
There nothing nasty about my mouth and I did not shriek. It was a quite dispassionate statement of fact. You morons on this website seem to constantly forget that the posts you quote are right there with the accusations you're making. The dingbat quoted my response to his question and then blithely claims that I didn't respond to the question which anyone who reads can see that I did. It's definitely a form of psychosis.
That's right and the only people who have him beat (and there's plenty of them) are people who think, in political terms, like Obama, Hillary, Pelosi, Cortes and you.
You're just so amazingly stupid. I can only thank God that we do not have a direct democracy where people who's minds do not work and who believe slobber mouthed stupidity like what you've just said here don't have the power such a system would afford them. People who think like me wouldn't last a week under any system that even slightly resembled Nazi style Fascism. We would all leave or be killed trying to leave. It is only our absence form society that permits such systems to exist in the first place.
Clete
eider
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Cap, Clete.......... if the cap fits.
Well let's see, people who shout their mouths off from behind their locked doors are so often the whimpering mice when discussing anything in person. Are you a whimpering mouse, Clete? I've got my opinions about that.
The above is Clete's view of Nazism, Fascism and Politics. Now see the World's view:-
Wiki:-Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".
Oxford Dictionary:- According to The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics..............
.................Right-wing parties include conservatives, Christian democrats, classical liberals, nationalists; and on the far-right, fascists.[31]
The Clete view certainly looks deranged to me.
The Clete view: Waaaaa! I want everything my way but you gotta protect me and save me from nasty people when I want. When I don't want you can all go get lost! Waaaa!
What you believe is up to you........... just don't interfere in other's beliefs, eh? I sure hope your God has words with you about your mouth. I believe in God too.
Oh No! So you're on the vile Sheriff of Nottingham's side? That ruthless villain? Where I live Robin Hood was a hero. Says so much about you!
The Government DOES have the right to tell you what to do. President Trump's government can. ........and has been, just lately.
Well, don't commit any crimes then, and you won't have to face any judgements.
I just think you've got a dirty mouth, Clete........ very nasty.
Not a daft as you, Clete, who cannot realise that Nationalism, Facsism and Nazism are all right-wing mindsets. You probably see them as left-wing from your extreme rightist position. Wow..... that must be so Rightist it's out of sight!
Now........... Medical Detection Dogs have entered in to training research both in the UK and Oz, and if they show that they can do the work, guess which country will want to harness their use? Well? Yeah, Clete, the USA, because they would be able to help to re-open the country more quickly. So if that happens, and if one approaches you in any queue or public place, it's best if you mind your manners and do as you're told.
It’s a label of projection ...
eider
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It seems to be a lie. Easy as that.
And an insult.
Ah! Yes....... insults. It still boggles my mind, how a thread about Medical Detection Dogs can be spun in to a deranged political rant (by some). We don't know if dogs can detect Covid... they can only detect some cancers for instance, but most of us will support the provision of £500,000 for research in to this possibility.
We are mostly very proud about our 'assistance' dogs in the UK, there are so many kinds...... Dogs for the Blind, Hearing Dogs, Seizure Alert dogs, Assistance dogs for the severely disabled, Confidence dogs, Canine Partners, Police Dogs, explosives detection dogs, drug dogs and so many more working dogs, like sheep dogs etc......... they build up and save lives. And some folks here really think that Covid dogs would be some satanic evil to be used by jack booted thugs or something? :chuckle:
A half million of money that your government does not have for a service that will not help and would likely not be available in suifficient quantity before this virus has burned itself out anyway.
Laugh all you want but the vast majority of those other dogs provide a real benefit that someone had to pay for with their own money. In other words there was an actual market for such dogs and the market provided them. If there was such a market for COVID dogs, the market would provide them as well.
I love it when a leftist uses what the right has provided as support for their own worthless stupidity. It's the only way and the only reason that the policies of the left work at all. On the backs of producers. Just as a flea dies without a dog to suck the blood from, so leftists starve without the food the right's work provides them.
It will NOT help open the country. IT WILL DO THE OPPOSITE!
Hide and watch.
The country should have been reopened a month ago when they started shutting down the multi-hundred million dollar temporary hospitals that no one ever needed. That single point alone is enough to tell anyone with a functioning mind that this shut down no longer has anything to do with keeping anyone safe.
The states with left wing governors will remain shut down for as long as they can find an excuse to keep them shut down. They need their economies in as bad a shape as possible because they have unfunded liabilities coming our of their ears and this disease has given them (they hope) a way of getting the federal government to bail them out of at least part of the mess they've created for themselves by paying government employees a ridiculously inflated pension for two and three times as long as they ever paid them a similarly inflated salary.
Now just how do you think thousands of dogs being posted all over the place is going to fix that? You don't! That's just exactly the problem. You don't think. You spout your mindless mouth off about things you know nothing at all about and then laugh at anyone with an opposing opinion and laugh all the more if he starts making any sense.
Clete
You keep saying this but I keep making actual arguments that you in turn respond to by just repeating the claim again.
I wonder why that is? :think:
Maybe because, once again, you don't have any idea what you're talking about and are simply parroting what you've been told to believe.
Whether something is to one side or the other of something has to do with how far the ideas are taken to their logic extreme.
If the left is defined by big government, by those in power deciding the course of the economy and the role it's citizens will have both in the society then just as Nazism is just another form or Fascism, Fascism is just another form of Socialism and Socialism is just another form of Communism. They're all of a kind, they're just different applications of the same top down, command and control, big government mindset.
The right, however, is quite the opposite. It is about having the smallest and least powerful form of government that is possible. It seeks to have a government that is as unobtrusive into your life as it is possible to have while maintaining a civil society. It's about individuals setting their own course and being solely responsible for the results that they achieve and being made free to do so by a government that is there to do nothing other than protect their God given rights from those who would seek to undermine them by whatever means and to settle disputes between parties.
Clete
I have yet to hear of any communists being involved in organizing "Unite the Right" rallies.
eider
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Says Doctor Clete....!
I don't think you have the least amount of education in the right subject matter to make any comments about our research here.
Wrong! Why are you always wrong about everything?
Where I live folks who need medical assistance dogs get them for free.
Another rant from a Right Wing Extremist..........
Why don't you clear off and post somewhere else?
You've got nothing of value to add to this thread.......... so..... on yer bike!
eider
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I live in Britain, and you've been told that already by a moderator.
And the first two sentences of the OP to the thread showed you that.
So it would not be anything to do with ensuring that this virus does not peak again..... right?
Duh!
Only numpties ask questions and then shout other folk's answers...... wrongly.
You're a joke. ...... and an uneducated joke at that.
You tried to turn this thread in to a rant about pervert barbers refusing to cut your hair, how you're a white Christian male, and all other manner of rubbish.
Go on............. get on yer bike and pedal off in to the sunset.