Yep
Since the first Earth Day in 1970, scientists have been wrong 100% of the time.
But that doesn't stop people like you from believing these scientists who have been wrong 100% of the time.
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Yep
Since the first Earth Day in 1970, scientists have been wrong 100% of the time.
But that doesn't stop people like you from believing these scientists who have been wrong 100% of the time.
Tinark
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It must be nice to live in a universe where reality is simply whatever you want it to be.
Tinark
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Who told you that? The little birdie on your shoulder?
Do you really want me to post all the 100% wrong predictions from scientists since the first Earth Day?
I will post my favorite quote of a scientist from the first Earth Day in 1970:
“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” - Kenneth Watt, Ecologist, Professor Emeritus at the University of California at Davis.
Why do you keep listening to these people?
"In late September 2013, the ice surrounding Antarctica reached its annual winter maximum and set a new record. Sea ice extended over 19.47 million square kilometers (7.51 million square miles) of the Southern Ocean. The previous record of 19.44 million square kilometers was set in September 2012." - NASA
Why do you ignore NASA when NASA says there is more ice in the Antarctic then EVER before?
Let me guess......there is more ice in the Antarctic than EVER before because of global warming :bang:
Did you know there is a TOL user who is half Okinawan?
His username is Hilston.
Here is one of his posts:
I wouldn't consider one time, normal.
Oh, I did not know that. He does not post much though.
zoo22
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Since you just post the same things again and again, despite that you know otherwise, I'll won't bother rewriting what you've already been corrected on plenty of times:
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I really don't understand why you'd choose to ignore reality. You're obviously doing it willfully. But you and I both know that you're well-aware that "global cooling" was something only a small minority of scientists predicted in the 70's. And you and I both know that you're well-aware that even in the 70's, most scientists were already predicting global warming.
One more time:
From 1965 to 1979 there were 69 peer reviewed articles about climate change. 7 predicted cooling, 20 were neutral, 42 predicting warming.
You know that. Yet you still tell people otherwise.
You're in denial.
If what you say is true, then post all the quotes from these scientists?
Post quotes from major newspapers, or magazines?
I was alive in the 70's and remember quite well that the consensus was that there was an ice age coming. No one ever said a word about global warming in the 70's. It was all about the ice age that was coming
Let's look at the liberal New York Times and Washington Post:
"The United States and the Soviet Union are mounting large-scale investigations to determine why the Arctic climate is becoming more frigid, why parts of the Arctic sea ice have recently become ominously thicker and whether the extent of that ice cover contributes to the onset of ice ages." - New York Times - July 18, 1970
"Get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters--the worst may be yet to come. That's the long-long-range weather forecast being given out by climatologists, the people who study very long-term world weather trends...." Washington Post - January 11, 1970
"In the next 50 years fine dust that humans discharge into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel will screen out so much of the sun's rays that the Earth's average temperature could fall by six degrees. Sustained emissions over five to 10 years, could be sufficient to trigger an ice age." - Washington Post - July 9, 1971
"Scientist ponder why World's Climate is changing; a major cooling is considered to be inevitable" - New York Times - May 21, 1975
"An international team of specialists has concluded from eight indexes of climate that there is no end in sight to the cooling trend of the last 30 years, at least in the Northern Hemisphere." - New York Times - January 5, 1978
As we see above, the New York Times and Washington Post were reporting that scientists believed an Ice Age was coming.
But, let's look at what the New York Times and Time Magazine said about global warming:
"America in longest warm spell since 1776; temperature line records a 25 year rise" - New York Times 3/27/1933
"Gaffers who claim that winters were harder when they were boys are quite right...weather men have no doubt that the world at least for the time being is growing warmer." - Time Magazine Jan. 2 1939
"A mysterious warming of the climate is slowly manifesting itself in the Arctic, engendering a "serious international problem," - New York Times - May 30, 1947
Well how about that....global warming in the 30's and 40's, and then the ice age in the 70's. and now global warming again.
Like I said, these morons have been wrong 100% of the time, yet people like you keep believing them.
The real people in denial are those who deny that climatologists warned of an ice age in the 70's
"Telltale signs are everywhere -from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest. Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F." - Climatologist George J. Kukla of Columbia University - Time Magazine, June 24th, 1975
"Telltale signs are everywhere -from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest. Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F." - Climatologist George J. Kukla of Columbia University - Time Magazine, June 24th, 1975
Tinark
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A quote is not a peer reviewed scientific paper. Do you know the difference between science and scientists?
what an insulting question. sheesh.
See Selaphiel's post to clear up your confusion between local and global temperatures.
Possibly. What do you make of it? January of this year saw a large number of record low temperatures. And yet, it was also one of the warmest Januaries on record (source). It certainly seems like there may be more variability in the weather than there has been in the past. Is that climate change, or some yet unknown phenomenon? It's unclear, but it seems unlikely that we're seeing a totally new weather pattern without there being a climatic reason.
So, the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, etc. were all wrong in the 70's?
According to you, all these news outlets had it all wrong about what scientists really believed. Despite article after article about the Ice Age that was looming, the real truth was that scientists believed the exact opposite?
Like I said, you guys are trying to rewrite history. But, that doesn't surprise me, rewriting history is part of being a liberal.
Case in Point:
Tinark
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Well, tetelestai is throwing out a bunch of cherry picked media quotes from random people in the 1970's as if it is somehow relevant to the discussion. What is the purpose of these irrelevant quotes other than confusing them for science?
Tinark
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Last I checked, these aren't scientific publications. Also, last I checked, individual scientists are wrong all the time. There are no authorities in science.
What anyone believed in 1970 and why they believed it is irrelevant to 2014 and the evidence available today as we speak.
Nothing is being rewritten. What is being challenged is why you think old rubbish quotes from 1970 are somehow relevant to the discussion.
Without scientists, there is no science information.