annabenedetti
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In before the next lock!
Clearly A Drunk Can Consent
- Thread starter ok doser
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I think he raped her based on his history and behavior: him trying to hide her pants and undies and lying about why his pants were undone.
annabenedetti
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You locked it right after I posted that (my timing was perfect! :chuckle
, and now you've unlocked it again. I'll wait to see if the thread stays open, I don't want to post on an intermittently opened and closed thread.
You locked it right after I posted that (my timing was perfect! :chuckle
I'll wait to see if the thread stays open, I don't want to post on an intermittently opened and closed thread.
You knew that when you said :
Youre a hypocrite aren't you?
ok doser
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i think he took advantage of a situation that presented itself and a drunk woman who wasn't going to resist
I think that in any normal sense of the word rape, then yes, he raped her
but the legal sense of the word rape is something very different
and we're talking about the canadian legal system here
if she was my sister, i'd track down the scumbag and cut his (deleted) off
and then i'd get her into a detox program
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Isn't a person though who drinks themselves into oblivion, consenting to all manner of possible things?
Also shouldnt whichever way it falls, fall on both sides consent/no consent for men AND women (if a drunk woman cannot consent, neither can a drunk man)
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
two aspects of this case intrigue me and i don't believe they've been raised in the mainstream conversation
1. she called a cab and entered it, gave her address - at that point she was able to enter into a contract for services - from a legal perspective
2. alcohol intoxication is a progressive phenomena - even if there comes out of this a sharply defined BAC at which consent can no longer be given, what if consent is given before that point and the person continues to drink?
Since we are hypothesising scenerios, what about
3. The guy has a buddy at a local bar, offers to call her a cab, slips something in her drink where she cant remember jack later...
Another woman stated this guy assaulted her at her place and she had fuzzyness too, and her account sounded like she was drugged.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Which could be what happened here also, since its happened with this same guy a couple times before.
One reported he kept driving her around the block instead of to her door, maybe waiting for something to kick in?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
good point - it would be a good tactic - pick up a drunk woman, offer her a spiked drink and wait for her to pass out
i wonder if the cops had the hospital do any bloodwork on her :think:
from a legal perspective, i'm not sure how you'd prove that she didn't take it willingly, or before she called the cab
Good question, but depending on how long had lapsed, there are some date rape drugs that are close to undetectable a little while after the fact. But it would tell how drunk she was which could also suggest some kind of date rape drugging (if her blood alcohol content wasnt high enough for her to be passed out/black out drunk ...)