Do you honestly believe she consented?
Clearly A Drunk Can Consent
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Do you honestly believe she consented?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
i have no idea :idunno:
but he's not a bad looking fellow and i knew plenty of young women in college who were attracted to the good looking middle eastern guys, even when their inhibitions weren't diminished by alcohol
Though they got it's basis wrong, the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" is based on a fact actually proven, both Scriptural and scientific fact.
The fact that be it under the right circumstances, or those manufactured towards the following intent - anyone's sense of right and wrong can be shifted against their own best interests, if not used on them, towards said same ill will.
With their...unknowing participation throughout...right before their very eyes.
Maybe you have a small point there? She should have been arrested for being naked, and he should have been arrested for being a Muslim.
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glassjester
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Crucible?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
or public intoxication, or public lewdness (probably on the books in canada - they have some goofy sounding laws up there :chuckle:
kat said:and he should have been arrested for being a Muslim.
he should have been executed for being a mooslim :sibbie:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
The woman was the victim of a Muslim rapist, i.e. she didn't commit any crime (this is a TOL first, ok doser and Crucible defending a Muslim).
Checking to see if I'm blocked from yet another ok doser thread (it appears not...yet).
Sorry, but the law doesn't work that way. When a woman is raped (which is a felony) misdemeanor offenses by her are overlooked by law enforcement.
The woman was the victim of a Muslim rapist, i.e. she didn't commit any crime (this is a TOL first, ok doser and Crucible defending a Muslim).
Maybe you have a small point there? She should have been arrested for being naked, and he should have been arrested for being a Muslim.
Checking to see if I'm blocked from yet another ok doser thread (it appears not...yet).
Sorry, but the law doesn't work that way. When a woman is raped (which is a felony) misdemeanor offenses by her are overlooked by law enforcement.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
which is why i didn't report it today
it would be nice, however, if he'd stop lying about me "defending a muslim"
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
to respond to acw's point:
in this case, that hasn't been determined
in this case, that hasn't been determined
as he acquitted a Halifax taxi driver of sexually assaulting an intoxicated passenger found partly naked and unconscious in the back of his cab.
The cabdriver was acquitted of rape charges.
Now that we've established that he was charged with rape (and acquitted of rape because a Judge says that drunks can consent), let's go from there.
You stated on page 2
To which I reply:
Was a blood alcohol test taken on the woman by the police to see what state of intoxication she was in?
Was there video footage of the woman leaving the bar to see what state of intoxication she may have been in? (i.e. was she falling down drunk).
Were bar patrons questioned or was there a copy of her bar receipt brought into evidence to show how much she had to drink?
Let's keep in mind the past history of the accused rapist as well:
"A 2015 search warrant application mentions other situations involving Al-Rawi and female passengers.
One woman reported that Al-Rawi did not stop at her house, kept driving around the block while calling her "baby" and grabbed her hand and asked her to stay. The woman only wanted this information documented.
In another situation, a woman reported being intoxicated and getting into a cab driven by Bassam Abdullatif. Abdullatif and Al-Rawi are the same person, according to the search warrant.
Allegedly Al-Rawi took the woman up to his apartment and sexually assaulted her. The woman had limited recollection of the alleged assault."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/bassam-al-rawi-taxi-cab-sexual-assault-halifax-1.2875142
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
yes, he was charged, tried and acquitted and it's under appeal at the moment
he may have raped her
or
she may have consented
if she consented, her consent may or may not have been legal based on her degree of intoxication and a really poorly written law
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
i'm interested in it for a number of reasons
obviously, the issue of consent
also, the media coverage - canada is very liberal - more so than the US
and finally, the "muslim immigrant" wrinkle - the left has been very reluctant to attack mooslim immigrants who behave badly
The word most often used in Libertarian doctrine.
Come on res..aka...aka..., you can at least attempt to defend the Libertarian doctrine of consent.
You do that and I'll show the harm that has come to society because of it.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
that would be a wonderful topic for a new thread - why don't you start one (and stop spamming this one) and we can all join in the discussion
and here's a friendly hint - if you want people to join you in a discussion, don't attribute positions to them that they don't hold
now scat :wave2: