The only thing you have shown is that you continue to see all things according to the eyes and mind of the flesh carnal man nature which Paul calls the "old man" and spirit of the world. Have you not read what he states twice concerning Deut 25:4? It pertains to you, O fatling of Bashan. :crackup:
Christians are supposed to be kosher?
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The only thing you have shown is that you continue to see all things according to the eyes and mind of the flesh carnal man nature which Paul calls the "old man" and spirit of the world. Have you not read what he states twice concerning Deut 25:4? It pertains to you, O fatling of Bashan. :crackup:
way 2 go
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Do you really suppose giant image files of wild animals make your point? So far you have only shown that you do not understand the passage you quoted, (Exodus 20:24) as a "proof" text. The reason you do not understand is because you do not uphold the Testimony of Yeshua and the doctrine which is derived from that full Testimony. Neither will the vail that is over your heart, mind, and eyes, when you read the Torah, Prophets, and Writings, be removed until your heart turns to the Father as Paul clearly states in 2 Cor 3:14-16 KJV. Seeing how this has already been explained some three or four times now I am simply going to paste it from another recent post in the thread called the Beasts of Daniel:
True doctrine does not change whether concerning the Prophets, such as Daniel, or whether concerning topics such as this one. The altar of adamah from Exodus 20:24 is the altar of the heart, (in all places wheresoever the Father chooses to record His name and will come to bless His people). It is not my fault you care not to hear, believe, or understand the Psalms and Prophets concerning what it means to offer up bullocks, rams, lambs, or goats. Poor Ephraim, a corn-fed heifer and fatted calf who loves to tread out the grain but cannot understand a word of what he eats. :chuckle:
Ben Masada
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None of the above. He will be a crowd of Jews returning from the four corners of the earth back to the Land of Israel. That's what the Messiah is. The Jewish People in general. If you doubt, read Prophet Habakkuk 3:13. "The Lord goes forth to save His People; to save His Anointed One." That's what the Messiah is, the Anointed One of the Lord.
iouae
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So Jews don't expect a Messiah according to you?
Ben Masada
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I can see that you have allowed the truth about the real Messiah call your attention. A great number of Jews still expect an individual Messiah to come. Many though have already adopted the banner of Prophet Habakkuk toward the understanding of the collective concept of the Messiah.
Now, the Logic of the matter is that, the individual cannot be the Messiah as the individual is born, lives his span of life and dies. Are we supposed to expect a new Messiah in every generation? Obviously not. The Messiah is not supposed to die but to remain as a People before the Lord forever. (Jer. 31:35-37)
Elia
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The messiah will be 100% human, he will not be God, he will not be divine, he will not be born of a virgin, but from the normal union of man and wife.
God will give him special powers, like all the prophets had, but he will be totally human.
"Serve Y-H-W-H! And if it seems evil to you to serve Y-H-W-H, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell.
But as for me and my house, we will serve Y-H-W-H!.”
Joshua 24:14-15
In Isaiah, before the new heavens and new earth are established, God speaks about a rebellious people which walk in a way that is not good, after their own thoughts; a people that provoke Me to anger continually to My face, (65:2,3). One of the reasons these people provoke the Lord is because they eat swine's flesh, and broth of unclean meat is in their pots, (65:4).
Also, God declares that He will consume those people who eat swine's flesh, detestable things, and mice. (Isa.66:17). The context of this prophecy is the end times, right before the new heaven and new earth. This would certainly seem to suggest that the Lord will still expect an obedience to His dietary laws.
And Revelation talks of unclean birds which doesn't make sense if all animals have been made clean.
Also, God declares that He will consume those people who eat swine's flesh, detestable things, and mice. (Isa.66:17). The context of this prophecy is the end times, right before the new heaven and new earth. This would certainly seem to suggest that the Lord will still expect an obedience to His dietary laws.
And Revelation talks of unclean birds which doesn't make sense if all animals have been made clean.
Ben Masada
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Here, Isaiah's reference is to the new world order as a result of the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah with the House of Israel and the House of Judah in Jer. 31:31 at the end of the 70 years exile in Babylon.
way 2 go
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still haven't shown I am wrong
Exodus 20:13 people only
so killing animals is not wrong
Lev 11:2 "Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth.
Lev 11:3 Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat.
and
Jews were under roman rule, which is why Jesus was crucified
and not stoned to death Act 7:58
Num_15:36 And all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, as the LORD commanded Moses.
