Christianity Is A Faith.

[JAGG]

The Apostle Paul wrote:

"And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three..." (1 Cor. 13:13).

Hebrews describes Faith as:

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Hebrews 11:1).

That is how strong my faith is to be in Christ and the Father.

Amen to all that 10 times.

 

[JAGG]

You say "Intellectual Philosophical System", and "Rationalism
and Empiricism". What do you mean by that?

The simple answer is that I mean that one of the most important
verses in God's word the Holy Bible is John 3:16 "For God so
loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that whoever
believes on Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

And I mean that these two truths are very important and are
two of the core teachings of the New Testament on faith.

■ "without faith it is impossible to please God"

■ "for by grace are you saved through faith"

The above is what I mean when I say that Christianity Is A
Faith And Not An Intellectual Philosophical System
Based Upon Rationalism And Empiricism.


`

 

[JAGG]

`
I had an English teacher once tell me that if you speak in
words not understood by your audience than what good
is it?
`

If he was a good English teacher he also told you that it
was very important for you to learn new words. That is
what ALL good English teachers tell their students. There
was a time when none of us knew what the word "audience"
meant --- we had to learn what it meant. So learning new
words is a good thing to do.

______

You have some very good ideas. I like your posts.

`

 

[God's Truth]

If he was a good English teacher he also told you that it
was very important for you to learn new words. That is
what ALL good English teachers tell their students. There
was a time when none of us knew what the word "audience"
meant --- we had to learn what it meant. So learning new
words is a good thing to do.

______

You have some very good ideas. I like your posts.

`

This is not seminary school. People go to seminary school and think they learn God's Truth but they don't.

 

[God's Truth]

The simple answer is that I mean that one of the most important
verses in God's word the Holy Bible is John 3:16 "For God so
loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that whoever
believes on Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

And I mean that these two truths are very important and are
two of the core teachings of the New Testament on faith.

■ "without faith it is impossible to please God"

■ "for by grace are you saved through faith"

The above is what I mean when I say that Christianity Is A
Faith And Not An Intellectual Philosophical System
Based Upon Rationalism And Empiricism.


`

All of God's words are important, and you left out one of the most important and that is to obey Jesus. Faith alone is DEAD, like a dead body that needs to be buried.
We have to believe that we have to obey Jesus.

 

[God's Truth]

Okay, I want to say the following:


■ "without faith it is impossible to please God"

■ "for by grace are you saved through faith"

■ "he that comes to God must believe that He
exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him"

■ "believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved"

■ God gave His only Son that whoever believes on Him shall
not perish but have eternal life

From the Opening Post JAGG Wrote::
"Christianity is a FAITH.
The word FAITH occurs hundreds and hundreds of times in the Bible
and is presented as being absolutely essential to sustaining
the Christian FAITH".___JAGG

____________

You know how many denominations think have faith in Jesus means just have faith and do nothing else?

Thanks for your interest in my Opening Post and for your comments.



`

Your welcome.

 

[JAGG]

This is not seminary school.

But it is kinda like a school because we all
learn a lot about the Bible and about the Lord
Jesus and about God's will for our lives.

People go to seminary school and think they
learn God's Truth but they don't.

Many tens of thousands do.
There are several hundred Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries
in the the United States, and in the world, that teach the Bible as
the word of God and therefore their students do learn God's truths.

The foundation of these Bible believing Bible Colleges and Bible
believing Bible Seminaries can be found in 2 Timothy 3:15 -17
where Paul wrote to Timothy and said the following:
{1} from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures
{2} which are able to make you wise for salvation
{3} through faith in Christ Jesus
{4} all Scripture is God-breathed
{5} and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training
in righteousness
{6 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every
good work

All the many hundreds and hundreds of Bible believing Bible Colleges
and Bible believing Bible Seminaries train the future pastors of Christian
Churches worldwide and prepare them for ministry to others. These
institutions also provide a Bible foundation for many Christians who
become Medical Missionaries and serve the Lord in foreign lands.
These institutions also train the future wives of pastors who help their
husbands in their ministry to Christian Churches.

So Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries are very important to worldwide
Christendom.



`

 

[JAGG]

`
All of God's words are important, and you left out one of the
most important and that is to obey Jesus. Faith alone is
DEAD, like a dead body that needs to be buried. We have
to believe that we have to obey Jesus.

"you left out one of the most important and that is to obey
Jesus."___God's Truth

Good point.

We can add that one.

■ Obey the Lord Jesus

______________

God's Truth,

I posted these 10 Bible verses down there, on obeying the Lord Jesus, just
for you.


John 14:23
Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode
with him.

John 8:31
So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue
in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;

John 14:21
He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me;
and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will
disclose Myself to him.”

John 14:23-24
Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode
with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word
which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.

John 14:15
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

John 15:10-15
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have
kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love. These things I
have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may
be made full. “This is My commandment, that you love one another, just
as I have loved you.

1 John 2:3
By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His
commandments.

1 John 3:22
And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments
and do the things that are pleasing in His sight.

1 John 3:24
The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know
by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments
are not burdensome.





`

 

[God's Truth]

But it is kinda like a school because we all
learn a lot about the Bible and about the Lord
Jesus and about God's will for our lives.

This is not seminary school. I go against what those schools teach.

Many tens of thousands do.

They are all being taught false doctrines.

There are several hundred Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries
in the the United States, and in the world, that teach the Bible as
the word of God and therefore their students do learn God's truths.

They are ALL being taught falseness.
You don’t get God’s Truth from going to school that teaches falseness about God.
We get God’s Truth by getting Jesus’ teachings and doing what he says to do and Jesus reveals truth to us after we do that.

The foundation of these Bible believing Bible Colleges and Bible
believing Bible Seminaries can be found in 2 Timothy 3:15 -17
where Paul wrote to Timothy and said the following:
{1} from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures
{2} which are able to make you wise for salvation
{3} through faith in Christ Jesus
{4} all Scripture is God-breathed
{5} and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training
in righteousness
{6 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every
good work
{3} through faith in Christ Jesus
{4} all Scripture is God-breathed
{5} and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training
in righteousness
{6 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every
good work

That is about your parents teaching you the truth, not seminary school.
I can see where you have been indoctrinated. You don’t even understand that is about your parents teaching you the truth and it starting with the old testament scriptures.

All the many hundreds and hundreds of Bible believing Bible Colleges
and Bible believing Bible Seminaries train the future pastors of Christian
Churches worldwide and prepare them for ministry to others. These
institutions also provide a Bible foundation for many Christians who
become Medical Missionaries and serve the Lord in foreign lands.
These institutions also train the future wives of pastors who help their
husbands in their ministry to Christian Churches.

All of them taught false doctrines about God, and keeping people from really knowing God.
Look at how you brought up COLLEGE, and MEDICAL, as if that is proof that what is taught is from God. No way, for it means nothing about God’s Truth, it goes against it.
God doesn’t give understanding because one gets educated or has high standing in the community like a medical professional.

So Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries are very important to worldwide
Christendom.

They are keeping people from being saved and it is a sad thing in deed.

 

[God's Truth]

"you left out one of the most important and that is to obey
Jesus."___God's Truth

Good point.

We can add that one.

■ Obey the Lord Jesus

______________

God's Truth,

I posted these 10 Bible verses down there, on obeying the Lord Jesus, just
for you.


John 14:23
Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode
with him.

John 8:31
So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue
in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;

John 14:21
He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me;
and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will
disclose Myself to him.”

John 14:23-24
Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode
with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word
which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.

John 14:15
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

John 15:10-15
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have
kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love. These things I
have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may
be made full. “This is My commandment, that you love one another, just
as I have loved you.

1 John 2:3
By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His
commandments.

1 John 3:22
And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments
and do the things that are pleasing in His sight.

1 John 3:24
The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know
by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments
are not burdensome.


`

I am glad that you are teaching that truth.

Now tell me this, are you a Calvinist?

 

[JAGG]

This is not seminary school.

But it is kinda like a school because we all
learn a lot about the Bible and about the Lord
Jesus and about God's will for our lives. So
TOL is a school in that sense.

I go against what those schools teach.

But you don't go against these type schools, do you?
There are several hundred Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries
in the United States, and in the world, that teach the Bible as
the word of God and therefore teach their students do learn God's
truths from the Bible. You don't go against these schools, do you?

They are all being taught false doctrines.

That is a fascinating perspective.
You said "all." Is it your position that ALL Bible Colleges in America
are teaching "false doctrines"? So that would mean you believe
Moody Bible Institute and Liberty University are teaching false
doctrines, is that right?

They are ALL being taught falseness.

That's a very interesting perspective.
Your position would mean that you believe that Moody Bible Institute
and Liberty University are teaching false doctrines. You said "ALL"
and you even capitalized the word "ALL" -- so that would include
Moody Bible Institute and Liberty University which is a Christian
University in Lynchburg Virginia. You are saying both teach false
doctrines, is that right?

You don’t get God’s Truth from going to school that teaches falseness about God.

That is correct. But you DO get God's Truth from going to schools that teach the
truth about God. Isn't that correct?

We get God’s Truth by getting Jesus’ teachings and doing what he says to do and Jesus
reveals truth to us after we do that.

Sounds good to me. Preach it strong.

That is about your parents teaching you the truth, not seminary school.

That is incorrect. I learned about 2 Timothy 3:15-17 from BOTH my parents
and from the school I attended.

I can see where you have been indoctrinated.

I was indoctrinated by reading and studying Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21


Thanks again for your continued interest in my Opening Post and in some of my other posts
in this thread.
`

`

 

[JAGG]

Look at how you brought up COLLEGE, and MEDICAL, as if that is proof
that what is taught is from God. No way, for it means nothing about God’s
Truth, it goes against it.

That is incorrect.
Here is what I said:
JAGG Previously Wrote:
All the many hundreds and hundreds of Bible believing Bible Colleges
and Bible believing Bible Seminaries train the future pastors of Christian
Churches worldwide and prepare them for ministry to others. These
institutions also provide a Bible foundation for many Christians who
become Medical Missionaries and serve the Lord in foreign lands.
These institutions also train the future wives of pastors who help their
husbands in their ministry to Christian Churches.

So Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries are very important to worldwide
Christendom.
________________

Add this . . .
There is a urgent need for Medical Missionaries to minister to hurting people
in Third World countries. For example Samaritan's Purse is a humanitarian
Christian organization that has a large number of Christian Medical Missionaries
that are sent to places where Natural Disasters have occurred and they serve
as Christian Nurses and Christian Medical Doctors They help the people that
are hurting due to Natural Disasters, for example, Earthquakes and Tornados,
by meeting their medical needs. A large number of these Christian Nurses and
Christian Medical Doctors were trained in Christian Bible Colleges and Christian
Universities where they learned, not only about medical procedures, but also
learned about God's Truths from Genesis to Revelation. All this is very good and
it pleases God because He gave His Christian Church the general command to go
and help others who are hurting. By the way, the motto of Samaritan's Purse is
"Helping In Jesus' Name."

Start quote.
"As a Christian charity, Samaritan’s Purse shares the eternal hope and peace found
only in Jesus with men, women, and children who are victims of war, poverty, disaster,
disease, and famine. We work in more than 100 countries, addressing critical needs
such as food, clean water, shelter, and medicine. We also help hurting people in the
United States, including wounded U.S. soldiers and their spouses and homeowners
devastated by natural disasters.
End quote.

` LINK: SMARITAN'S PURSE

 

[God's Truth]

But it is kinda like a school because we all
learn a lot about the Bible and about the Lord
Jesus and about God's will for our lives. So
TOL is a school in that sense.

Maybe you can make a special thread where you teach what you learned at seminary school; otherwise, I like to tell people the truth that seminary school teaches falseness.

But you don't go against these type schools, do you?
There are several hundred Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries
in the United States, and in the world, that teach the Bible as
the word of God and therefore teach their students do learn God's
truths from the Bible. You don't go against these schools, do you?

I go against false teachings. If they come here and preach their falseness then this place allows for discussion and debates.

That is a fascinating perspective.
You said "all." Is it your position that ALL Bible Colleges in America
are teaching "false doctrines"? So that would mean you believe
Moody Bible Institute and Liberty University are teaching false
doctrines, is that right?

Tell me what they teach and we can discuss it.

That's a very interesting perspective.
Your position would mean that you believe that Moody Bible Institute
and Liberty University are teaching false doctrines. You said "ALL"
and you even capitalized the word "ALL" -- so that would include
Moody Bible Institute and Liberty University which is a Christian
University in Lynchburg Virginia. You are saying both teach false
doctrines, is that right?

That is right.

That is correct. But you DO get God's Truth from going to schools that teach the
truth about God. Isn't that correct?

None of those schools preach the truth.

Sounds good to me. Preach it strong.

That is what I do.

That is incorrect. I learned about 2 Timothy 3:15-17 from BOTH my parents
and from the school I attended.

I am talking about what Paul said to TIMOTHY.

I was indoctrinated by reading and studying Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21

You were indoctrinated by false teachers.

Thanks again for your continued interest in my Opening Post and in some of my other posts in this thread.

You're welcome.

 

[God's Truth]

That is incorrect.
Here is what I said:
JAGG Previously Wrote:
All the many hundreds and hundreds of Bible believing Bible Colleges
and Bible believing Bible Seminaries train the future pastors of Christian
Churches worldwide and prepare them for ministry to others. These
institutions also provide a Bible foundation for many Christians who
become Medical Missionaries and serve the Lord in foreign lands.
These institutions also train the future wives of pastors who help their
husbands in their ministry to Christian Churches.

So Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries are very important to worldwide
Christendom.
________________

Add this . . .
There is a urgent need for Medical Missionaries to minister to hurting people
in Third World countries. For example Samaritan's Purse is a humanitarian
Christian organization that has a large number of Christian Medical Missionaries
that are sent to places where Natural Disasters have occurred and they serve
as Christian Nurses and Christian Medical Doctors They help the people that
are hurting due to Natural Disasters, for example, Earthquakes and Tornados,
by meeting their medical needs. A large number of these Christian Nurses and
Christian Medical Doctors were trained in Christian Bible Colleges and Christian
Universities where they learned, not only about medical procedures, but also
learned about God's Truths from Genesis to Revelation. All this is very good and
it pleases God because He gave His Christian Church the general command to go
and help others who are hurting. By the way, the motto of Samaritan's Purse is
"Helping In Jesus' Name."[/SIZE]

Start quote.
"As a Christian charity, Samaritan’s Purse shares the eternal hope and peace found
only in Jesus with men, women, and children who are victims of war, poverty, disaster,
disease, and famine. We work in more than 100 countries, addressing critical needs
such as food, clean water, shelter, and medicine. We also help hurting people in the
United States, including wounded U.S. soldiers and their spouses and homeowners
devastated by natural disasters.
End quote.

They do harm by preaching false doctrines.

 

[JAGG]

Maybe you can make a special thread where you teach what you
learned at seminary school;

I have never at any time said that I went to "Seminary" School.

You were indoctrinated by false teachers.

False.
I was not.

They do harm by preaching false doctrines.

False.
They do not.

JAGG Previously Wrote:
All the many hundreds and hundreds of Bible believing Bible Colleges
and Bible believing Bible Seminaries train the future pastors of Christian
Churches worldwide and prepare them for ministry to others. These
institutions also provide a Bible foundation for many Christians who
become Medical Missionaries and serve the Lord in foreign lands.
These institutions also train the future wives of pastors who help their
husbands in their ministry to Christian Churches.

So Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries are very important to worldwide
Christendom.



There is a urgent need for Medical Missionaries to minister to hurting people
in Third World countries. For example Samaritan's Purse is a humanitarian
Christian organization that has a large number of Christian Medical Missionaries
that are sent to places where Natural Disasters have occurred and they serve
as Christian Nurses and Christian Medical Doctors They help the people that
are hurting due to Natural Disasters, for example, Earthquakes and Tornados,
by meeting their medical needs. A large number of these Christian Nurses and
Christian Medical Doctors were trained in Christian Bible Colleges and Christian
Universities where they learned, not only about medical procedures, but also
learned about God's Truths from Genesis to Revelation. All this is very good and
it pleases God because He gave His Christian Church the general command to go
and help others who are hurting. By the way, the motto of Samaritan's Purse is
"Helping In Jesus' Name."

Start quote.
"As a Christian charity, Samaritan’s Purse shares the eternal hope and peace found
only in Jesus with men, women, and children who are victims of war, poverty, disaster,
disease, and famine. We work in more than 100 countries, addressing critical needs
such as food, clean water, shelter, and medicine. We also help hurting people in the
United States, including wounded U.S. soldiers and their spouses and homeowners
devastated by natural disasters.
End quote.

__________



Moody Bible Institute and Liberty University are Bible believing Christian
schools that teach the Bible as being the inspired word of God. Both of
those schools are very important to the 21st Century Christian Church.





`

 

[God's Truth]

I have never at any time said that I went to "Seminary" School.




False.
I was not.




False.
They do not.

JAGG Previously Wrote:
All the many hundreds and hundreds of Bible believing Bible Colleges
and Bible believing Bible Seminaries train the future pastors of Christian
Churches worldwide and prepare them for ministry to others. These
institutions also provide a Bible foundation for many Christians who
become Medical Missionaries and serve the Lord in foreign lands.
These institutions also train the future wives of pastors who help their
husbands in their ministry to Christian Churches.

So Bible Colleges and Bible Seminaries are very important to worldwide
Christendom.



There is a urgent need for Medical Missionaries to minister to hurting people
in Third World countries. For example Samaritan's Purse is a humanitarian
Christian organization that has a large number of Christian Medical Missionaries
that are sent to places where Natural Disasters have occurred and they serve
as Christian Nurses and Christian Medical Doctors They help the people that
are hurting due to Natural Disasters, for example, Earthquakes and Tornados,
by meeting their medical needs. A large number of these Christian Nurses and
Christian Medical Doctors were trained in Christian Bible Colleges and Christian
Universities where they learned, not only about medical procedures, but also
learned about God's Truths from Genesis to Revelation. All this is very good and
it pleases God because He gave His Christian Church the general command to go
and help others who are hurting. By the way, the motto of Samaritan's Purse is
"Helping In Jesus' Name."

Start quote.
"As a Christian charity, Samaritan’s Purse shares the eternal hope and peace found
only in Jesus with men, women, and children who are victims of war, poverty, disaster,
disease, and famine. We work in more than 100 countries, addressing critical needs
such as food, clean water, shelter, and medicine. We also help hurting people in the
United States, including wounded U.S. soldiers and their spouses and homeowners
devastated by natural disasters.
End quote.

__________



Moody Bible Institute and Liberty University are Bible believing Christian
schools that teach the Bible as being the inspired word of God. Both of
those schools are very important to the 21st Century Christian Church.





`

Those Bible colleges are Calvinistic.

They do preach falseness.

 

[God's Truth]

JAGG

How about debate your doctrines with me. Iron sharpens iron.

 

[meshak]

But it is kinda like a school because we all
learn a lot about the Bible and about the Lord
Jesus and about God's will for our lives. So
TOL is a school in that sense.

Hello @JAGG
Nice to meet you.

May I join?

I would like to discuss the above statement of yours.

blessings.

 

[JAGG]

Hello @JAGG
Nice to meet you.

May I join?

I would like to discuss the above statement of yours.

blessings.

Hello, Meshak, nice to meet you too. Sure, feel free too
make some comments on my statement up there.

`

 

[meshak]

Hello, Meshak, nice to meet you too. Sure, feel free too
make some comments on my statement up there.

`

thank you.



There are all kinds of faith.

I am assuming you are talking about Christian faith.

I am not one of the mainstreamers meaning I dont believe in the trinity.

So you know what I am getting at?