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What do they need to endure?If that is only for the Jewish believes, why do they have to "endure" ?
What do they need to endure?If that is only for the Jewish believes, why do they have to "endure" ?
I believe that you meant "lose" and not "loose".
We all need to endure faithfully in the face of every temptation designed by the devil to lure us away from our faith.What do they need to endure?
Nice dodge. That's NOT what those passages are talking about.We all need to endure faithfully in the face of every temptation designed by the devil to lure us away from our faith.
Irrelevant to this discussion.... so AGAIN you're dodging.How can a man honestly say he has faith if he cheats on his taxes ?
Irrelevant. Roger dodger!He has turned money into an idol to be served above God.
You don't think they, and we, need to endure being tempted to abandon the faith?Nice dodge. That's NOT what those passages are talking about.
Being able to resist the temptation to lie and horde money, instead of trusting God to meet all one's needs, is relevant.Irrelevant to this discussion.... so AGAIN you're dodging.
It is something we must endure, faithfully.Irrelevant. Roger dodger!
Do you just mean that no one will be worshiping Baal in the eternal kingdom? Or do you mean that no one who has worshiped Baal will be dwelling in the eternal kingdom?There ain't gonna be no Baal worshippers in the eternal kingdom
You're saying that people who have eternal life can stop having eternal life?yes they would lose salvation to eternal life
Continuing to dodge will get you nowhere.You don't think they, and we, need to endure being tempted to abandon the faith?
Being able to resist the temptation to lie and horde money, instead of trusting God to meet all one's needs, is relevant.
It is something we must endure, faithfully.
Thank God for that down-payment.(Ephesians 4:30) And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you are sealed until the day of redemption.
It is written..."In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:Continuing to dodge will get you nowhere.
https://theologyonline.com/threads/...r-us-in-the-body-of-christ.60006/post-1893284
Starting a scripture quote with an IF verse is deceptive.It is written..."In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
Our "hope" is conditional.
You constantly prove that you are not saved.Thank God for that down-payment.
I hope I don't back out on the "deal".
so God did the down payment and you pay the rest ?Thank God for that down-payment.
I hope I don't back out on the "deal".
It is not a false scenario.False scenarios do not support your claim.
Yes, it is.It is not a false scenario.
No, they can't. The Bible says that once a believer puts their trust in Christ, they are SEALED. That's permanent, per scripture. That is what it means to be saved by grace through faith.Any Christian has the freewill choice to decline putting their trusting faith in YHWH.
Jesus Christ is God.Why do members of the body of Christ think that Christ will cut off His own finger or toe or leg?
Thank God for that down-payment.
I hope I don't back out on the "deal".
Yes... does this mean that you suddenly do not understand the symbolism in the Bible?Jesus Christ is God.
Again, you conflate and confuse God's dispensations. Israel is not the body of Christ.Israel was elect of God and called a son of God and yet some could be cut off due to them switching their alliance from YWHW to another.
Stop being vague and instead quote the scripture.And as Paul tells us, all these things were written as examples and warnings for us.
What immense confusion you have.So take heed of the examples and warnings because continuing belief is key, not according to works but according to believing.
The book TO THE HEBREWS is not about the body of Christ.Many of the OT characters listed in the hall of the faithful of Hebrews 11 did unsavory works like adultery, lying, drunkenness, deception, etc.
Good for them. They were not in the body of Christ.But the example they all had in common was that they did not switch their alliance from YHWH to another.
It is not vague to those that already know scripture.Stop being vague and instead quote the scripture.
As I noted before, that is you telling us that you have never been saved.salvation won't happen until the day of judgement
By telling us you've never been saved, you are telling us you've never been sealed by the Holy Spirit. Your "hope" is the "hope" of those not sealed by the Holy Spirit, and is thus worthless.Thank God for that down-payment.(Ephesians 4:30) And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you are sealed until the day of redemption.
I hope I don't back out on the "deal".