BROTHERHOOD OF THE URANTIA FANATICS!

Zeke

Well-known member
From the link:

scads of plagiarisms in the UB, originally discovered by Urantian believer Matthew Block.
In 1992, Block wrote a paper on “bibliographic” sources used in the UB. The paper reveals shameless plagiarism of earlier works, sometimes word-for-word but more frequently thought-for-thought.


Like the Bible isn't based on plagiarisms as well, better take the blind folds off on this one.
 

journey

New member
The challenge in post #38 to GM is for you too....if you can handle it. The character of God is central to any theology....so it's important that we have a correct presentation of that.

The next paper -

Paper 2 - The nature of God (text/audio)

Video-audio here

It's prudent to first know what you are discrediting if you would provide a convincing case against it. It currently stands that all there is is a "because I say so" which doesn't prove much beyond personal opinion, religious bias or assumption. Evaluate the contents. Consider the principles, ideas/ideals, concepts, ethics and morals espoused therein. Be a good student. Truth in principle has nothing to fear.


pj

I have no interest in spending my time with bogus BALONEY. In other words, the urantia book isn't good enough to be called real BALONEY. I skimmed some of it to form that firm opinion. It's not smart to fill your head with garbage.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

New member
Hall of Fame
I have no interest in spending my time with bogus BALONEY. In other words, the urantia book isn't good enough to be called real BALONEY. I skimmed some of it to form that firm opinion. It's not smart to fill your head with garbage.

Freelight's already filled to the brim! Even the flies won't come
near the 'Urantia book!'
 

Zeke

Well-known member
GM, a blind guide spouting the party line of indoctrinated religion, and traditional lies he emotionally mistook for truth.
 

Zeke

Well-known member
Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery, it gives your the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love and defend your oppressor while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you and open your eyes.
 

Nick M

Plymouth Colonist
LIFETIME MEMBER
Hall of Fame
As you look at our Solar System, you see that the planets are
in pairs of smilar sized planets.
Earth and Venus, Jupiter and Saturn and Uranus and Neptune.
But when you look at Mars, it only has the Meteor Belt.
What happened to the Planet that was there. The Scientists say
that there is not enough Mass to make up a Planet there.
What happened to the rest of the Planet ?

About 20 Billion years ago Two Energy Beings we know as GOD
with their vast accumulated knowledge decided to create
other beings like themselves. The Creators started
with simpler Energy Beings of lesser qualities until they
finally created a being similar to themselves
full of wisdom and knowledge. His name was Lucifer.

As time progressed the millions of created beings helped in
designing and creating vast star making structures
made out of swirling gas that would compact
hydrogen and helium gas into balls of burning gas of
tremendous size that we call stars.
Over millions of years a star cools and as the Hydrogen burns
off, the Helium, under Fusion first forms Carbon molecules and
many other molecules and finally forms Nickle and Iron Molecules.
Then under its own immense pressure the star shrinks to a brown dwarf
and cools and forms a planet.

The Energy Beings studied these planets to see what could be
created out of the chemicals that were formed there. They
created the rudiments of physical life on the Earth where conditions
were just right. They genetically developed life forms and
experimented with them over millions of years.

Because the Universe was so large, God wanted more and more
beings to occupy and manage it.
God decided to make intelligent animals that could reproduce
themselves and later be changed into Spirit beings.

And so, He gave the job to his wisest Angel, Lucifer.
Lucifer and his group genetically engineered animals on Earth
that would meet God's requirements. As time went on Lucifer started
to have internal confllicts when God told him that these animals
would eventually have Authority over him. He did not want to be
subservient to an Animal that he had genetically engineered.
He became frustrated and angry and eventually thought that God
was wrong to do this and planned to destroy the Earth Animals .

How was he going to do this ?

Lucifer and his Army moved the orbit of the other Planet so
that it hit Mars and blew up and broke apart .
It destroyed everything on Mars and blew all the atmosphere
and the water off into space and accumulated on the other planets
of Jupiter and Saturn. Large pieces of the broken planet traveled
throughout the solar system causing havoc and destruction
pummelled the Earth.The Earth was moved off its axis and the
poles melted. Where there had been rivers and streams,
there were now Oceans and Mountains. Everything was under
water and it stayed that way for millions of years.

After blowing up that planet, Lucifer took his Army and tried
to take over control of the Universe by attacking the Creators.
He was defeated and imprisoned along with his Army on the
Earth.
----------------------------------
The Creators had a Problem.
What were they going to do if the other Angels decided to
Rebel too? How could they make them understand
that Rebellion was not the Way to go ?

So, The Creators went off to another Solar System and
continued the project and genetically engineered a physical being
made out of the chemicals of the planet which could be controlled.
After millions of years of developing and studying these
physical beings in a balanced environment, the Creators
worked out a plan. Because Lucifer Rebelled and wanted
to rule the Universe they gave him these physical beings to Rule over.
The Creators gave the physical beings a choice either to
follow them or Lucifer.

After absorbing the fruit contaminated with Lucifers energy,
the people absorbed the rebellious attitude of Satan and
became more spiritually connected to Lucifer and kept drifting away
from The Creators. Jesus later came to the Earth and gave
the physical beings who would follow Him, the Mental Character
Spirit that He had built when He was on the Earth,
to help them fight and overcome Satan's evil Mindset.
Their Reward for Overcoming the pulls of this Satanic world,
would be Immortality and Membership in The Creators
Universal Government. Lucifer continued to influence humans
to go to war with each other because he wants to prepare them
to fight against God. He does not care if humans live or die
because he realizes that they are all going to be brought back to life
and are going to be in The Creators' Government and he and his army
were going to be rejected and locked up for a long long time​
.
 

Zeke

Well-known member
As you look at our Solar System, you see that the planets are
in pairs of smilar sized planets.
Earth and Venus, Jupiter and Saturn and Uranus and Neptune.
But when you look at Mars, it only has the Meteor Belt.
What happened to the Planet that was there. The Scientists say
that there is not enough Mass to make up a Planet there.
What happened to the rest of the Planet ?

About 20 Billion years ago Two Energy Beings we know as GOD
with their vast accumulated knowledge decided to create
other beings like themselves. The Creators started
with simpler Energy Beings of lesser qualities until they
finally created a being similar to themselves
full of wisdom and knowledge. His name was Lucifer.

As time progressed the millions of created beings helped in
designing and creating vast star making structures
made out of swirling gas that would compact
hydrogen and helium gas into balls of burning gas of
tremendous size that we call stars.
Over millions of years a star cools and as the Hydrogen burns
off, the Helium, under Fusion first forms Carbon molecules and
many other molecules and finally forms Nickle and Iron Molecules.
Then under its own immense pressure the star shrinks to a brown dwarf
and cools and forms a planet.

The Energy Beings studied these planets to see what could be
created out of the chemicals that were formed there. They
created the rudiments of physical life on the Earth where conditions
were just right. They genetically developed life forms and
experimented with them over millions of years.

Because the Universe was so large, God wanted more and more
beings to occupy and manage it.
God decided to make intelligent animals that could reproduce
themselves and later be changed into Spirit beings.

And so, He gave the job to his wisest Angel, Lucifer.
Lucifer and his group genetically engineered animals on Earth
that would meet God's requirements. As time went on Lucifer started
to have internal confllicts when God told him that these animals
would eventually have Authority over him. He did not want to be
subservient to an Animal that he had genetically engineered.
He became frustrated and angry and eventually thought that God
was wrong to do this and planned to destroy the Earth Animals .

How was he going to do this ?

Lucifer and his Army moved the orbit of the other Planet so
that it hit Mars and blew up and broke apart .
It destroyed everything on Mars and blew all the atmosphere
and the water off into space and accumulated on the other planets
of Jupiter and Saturn. Large pieces of the broken planet traveled
throughout the solar system causing havoc and destruction
pummelled the Earth.The Earth was moved off its axis and the
poles melted. Where there had been rivers and streams,
there were now Oceans and Mountains. Everything was under
water and it stayed that way for millions of years.

After blowing up that planet, Lucifer took his Army and tried
to take over control of the Universe by attacking the Creators.
He was defeated and imprisoned along with his Army on the
Earth.
----------------------------------
The Creators had a Problem.
What were they going to do if the other Angels decided to
Rebel too? How could they make them understand
that Rebellion was not the Way to go ?

So, The Creators went off to another Solar System and
continued the project and genetically engineered a physical being
made out of the chemicals of the planet which could be controlled.
After millions of years of developing and studying these
physical beings in a balanced environment, the Creators
worked out a plan. Because Lucifer Rebelled and wanted
to rule the Universe they gave him these physical beings to Rule over.
The Creators gave the physical beings a choice either to
follow them or Lucifer.

After absorbing the fruit contaminated with Lucifers energy,
the people absorbed the rebellious attitude of Satan and
became more spiritually connected to Lucifer and kept drifting away
from The Creators. Jesus later came to the Earth and gave
the physical beings who would follow Him, the Mental Character
Spirit that He had built when He was on the Earth,
to help them fight and overcome Satan's evil Mindset.
Their Reward for Overcoming the pulls of this Satanic world,
would be Immortality and Membership in The Creators
Universal Government. Lucifer continued to influence humans
to go to war with each other because he wants to prepare them
to fight against God. He does not care if humans live or die
because he realizes that they are all going to be brought back to life
and are going to be in The Creators' Government and he and his army
were going to be rejected and locked up for a long long time​
.

Sounds like the mind set of the US patriot christian, war mongers and slaves to the Crown Corp, legal named dead men walking in spiritual ignorance with a severe case of stockholm syndrome. Stone deaf blind and dumb children of the whore of Babylon, and to cowardly to lose the name which is the mark of the beast they love to use because without it they couldn't mentally grasp how they would survive. Pretty obvious who is without any spiritual merit or cred concerning trust in the Universe to take care of them.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

New member
Hall of Fame
Sounds like the mind set of the US patriot christian, war mongers and slaves to the Crown Corp, legal named dead men walking in spiritual ignorance with a severe case of stockholm syndrome. Stone deaf blind and dumb children of the whore of Babylon, and to cowardly to lose the name which is the mark of the beast they love to use because without it they couldn't mentally grasp how they would survive. Pretty obvious who is without any spiritual merit or cred concerning trust in the Universe to take care of them.

The ONLY thing you trust in, is your 'little green men' floating
around in their UFOs! You're a typical "Urantian!"
 

journey

New member
The ONLY thing you trust in, is your 'little green men' floating
around in their UFOs! You're a typical "Urantian!"

I was just thinking about those unfortunates who have fallen for the urantia malarkey. Someone else has said, "A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
the "little green men" motif is getting OLD.......

the "little green men" motif is getting OLD.......

Yeah, Caino, Zeke, and Freelight keep their minds
focused on their little green men!

We correct you again here.

The UB has nothing to do with UFO's or little green men. You continue to propogate a false caricature of the papers and a few of us posters who happen to post on the UB thread, and are sharing that knowledge via 'discussion/dialogue' on the thread created for it (appropriately and respecting forum rules). You are denigrating the papers, and its expounders, or those who appear to express a belief in its message (targeting the expounders or confessed believers in the text primarily, whose advocacy for the revelation appears favorable....at least by what is being shared on the forum, however that is 'interpreted'). It is natural to discuss systematically a book and its chapters on a thread devoted to it.

You would also be informed that Zeke is addressing you from his own purely metaphysical/philosophical perspective, and NOT necessarily from a UB perspective...since as far as I know hes not an avid reader or necessarily even a 'student' of the text, so your lumping him together with those of us who are more knowledgable about the papers, and seem to be greater advocates of it as a useful religious writing....is not appropriate or right. Just because Zeke has posted some on the UB thread, does not mean he's a UB believer, advocate or promotor...in fact....I challenge you to find anywhere were he quotes and expounds upon any Urantia material. You will be hard pressed in your search, so using your "little green men" slur on him is bogus.

I've also told (many a time) that my religious studies extend far beyond the UB, and only recently has been a focal-point since people are keeping the subject alive, mostly nay-sayers and critics, so their posts need proper responses (and education on the matter), hence those given by those of us in the "know". Your claims, assumptions and misconceptions will be properly addressed (unless you are put back on ignore), at least for readers who have the intellectual honesty to make up their own minds by researching the info. provided. The UB is not for everyone... (as we all have our different spiritual paths and time-points along the way, when certain books may present themselves, at specially given times) ....but what it does reveal in its universality and all-inclusionary synthesis of religion, philosophy and science.... provides much ground for discussion, especially from within a Judeo-Christian historical and theological context.

~*~*~

This is a 'no fanatic' zone.

Articles to explore :poly: -

Is the Urantia Book a hoax?

Consideration of the some criticism of the Urantia Book





pj
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
Omega's view........

Omega's view........

As you look at our Solar System, you see that the planets are
in pairs of smilar sized planets.
Earth and Venus, Jupiter and Saturn and Uranus and Neptune.
But when you look at Mars, it only has the Meteor Belt.
What happened to the Planet that was there. The Scientists say
that there is not enough Mass to make up a Planet there.
What happened to the rest of the Planet ?

About 20 Billion years ago Two Energy Beings we know as GOD
with their vast accumulated knowledge decided to create
other beings like themselves. The Creators started
with simpler Energy Beings of lesser qualities until they
finally created a being similar to themselves
full of wisdom and knowledge. His name was Lucifer.


You might know Nick that this is Omega's signature commentary, and....he is not a Urantia Book believer or reader....even though he's been presented an opportunity to read it, which also speaks much of the Lucifer rebellion and our planetary history. Its a mystery so far where he gets his information from or if such is a collaboration of his own views mixed with some other source-material

:idunno:




pj
 

Grosnick Marowbe

New member
Hall of Fame
The UB has nothing to do with UFO's or little green men. You continue to propogate a false caricature of the papers and a few of us posters who happen to post on the UB thread, and are sharing that knowledge via 'discussion/dialogue' on the thread created for it (appropriately and respecting forum rules). You are denigrating the papers, and its expounders, or those who appear to express a belief in its message (targeting the expounders or confessed believers in the text primarily, whose advocacy for the revelation appears favorable....at least by what is being shared on the forum, however that is 'interpreted'). It is natural to discuss systematically a book and its chapters on a thread devoted to it.

My apologies for mocking, and showing ill respect for ALL the work
that went into preparing and cosmically materializing the 'fictionalized'
Uraunchy Book! I'm almost certain that it took several, earth
minutes to produce this marvelous work of Sci-Fi? The 'little green
men' (postured in their UFOs) must have been really dedicated to
this 'astonishing' piece of 20th Century relevance! They'd be proud
to know that, Caino, (banned) Zeke, and yourself have dedicated
your lives, and your better sense, to proclaiming the 'Uraunchy Book'
in all its preposterous essence! We all owe you and your ilk one huge
applause for bringing the "Uraunchy Book" to our attention!
 

Zeke

Well-known member
I was just thinking about those unfortunates who have fallen for the urantia malarkey. Someone else has said, "A mind is a terrible thing to waste."

Shame you are registered chattel, and to brainwashed to see it, and even patronize the very thing you claim to be against, doing the devils work by patronizing the whore of babylon.

Labels are master and humans are expendable in your paper prison.
 

Zeke

Well-known member
My apologies for mocking, and showing ill respect for ALL the work
that went into preparing and cosmically materializing the 'fictionalized'
Uraunchy Book! I'm almost certain that it took several, earth
minutes to produce this marvelous work of Sci-Fi? The 'little green
men' (postured in their UFOs) must have been really dedicated to
this 'astonishing' piece of 20th Century relevance! They'd be proud
to know that, Caino, (banned) Zeke, and yourself have dedicated
your lives, and your better sense, to proclaiming the 'Uraunchy Book'
in all its preposterous essence! We all owe you and your ilk one huge
applause for bringing the "Uraunchy Book" to our attention!

Hey dunce:doh: I don't push any literal version of a spiritual book, I only post to keep my ego in tune and try to wake up you chattel to the legal name, but you are way to smart for that:rolleyes:
 
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