Is that from the Bible?
BROTHERHOOD OF THE URANTIA FANATICS!
- Thread starter Grosnick Marowbe
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Is that from the Bible?
That's because your "predecessors" set it up for you!
Paul's teachings are, Christ's teachings!
I generally agree with this but Jesus had taught his apostles all along to go out into the world to carry the good news to the 4 corners of the earth. Paul kinda barged in and took over, some of the original apostles fell out with Paul. He took things in a compromised direction. See the RCC.
Matthew 28:17
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Demons only exist in your imagination.
Nope, Paul was not a good guy, he hunted down Christian believers!
Christ met him on the road to Damascus and asked him; "Saul, Saul,
why do you persecute me? Paul was chosen by Christ to go to
the gentiles with the message of God's Grace! Saul (Paul) didn't
just barge in, as you say, he was approached by Christ Himself!
I only respond to the voice of the shepherd, not an intermediary. Paul's opinions are his own.
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it! It's not the
truth but, believe what you may! No skin off my nose, as
they say!
Everyone has the freedom to believe in anything!
When one denies the truth, they're open to believe any falsehood that
comes down the Pike!
comes down the Pike!
Lots of people have had experiences with Jesus, Paul just happen to be the first persuasive, charismatic evangelist. Most of the NT was influenced by Paul's personal opinions.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Consider.......
Consider.......
In what way were they dabbling in the occult? Sadler and many of the early Forum members were devout seventh day Adventists (Christians) being very traditional-orthodox and against anything 'occult', in fact Sadler begin to research and study cases and factors associated with various forms of spiritualism, trance-channeling, psychics, etc. and wrote books about it, also exposing any fakes or frauds in such practices,...just like you, he was just as much against the 'occult' as any Christian today. The case with the 'sleeping subject' was different and unique from any of the other 'spiritualistic' cases that he was investigating, and what came forth thru him is contained in the papers.
See:
The Religious Affiliation of
Dr. William S. Sadler
Influential Physician and Founding Urantian
Notes on Dr. Sadler
The truth revealed thru the personality of Jesus has always existed since his 'incarnation', yet its 'light' has unfolded thru 'progressive revelation'.
This is Paul's statement, not Jesus
The 'conundrum' of Paul's gospel has been shared here . Again, Paul would 'curse' anything that is not according to "his" gospel, among other self-imposed claims which distanced him from the original apostles of Jesus based in Jerusalem. Any angel (messenger) is to be judged by the message itself, if there be any truth or value in it.
pj
Consider.......
In what way were they dabbling in the occult? Sadler and many of the early Forum members were devout seventh day Adventists (Christians) being very traditional-orthodox and against anything 'occult', in fact Sadler begin to research and study cases and factors associated with various forms of spiritualism, trance-channeling, psychics, etc. and wrote books about it, also exposing any fakes or frauds in such practices,...just like you, he was just as much against the 'occult' as any Christian today. The case with the 'sleeping subject' was different and unique from any of the other 'spiritualistic' cases that he was investigating, and what came forth thru him is contained in the papers.
See:
The Religious Affiliation of
Dr. William S. Sadler
Influential Physician and Founding Urantian
Notes on Dr. Sadler
The truth revealed thru the personality of Jesus has always existed since his 'incarnation', yet its 'light' has unfolded thru 'progressive revelation'.
This is Paul's statement, not Jesus
The 'conundrum' of Paul's gospel has been shared here . Again, Paul would 'curse' anything that is not according to "his" gospel, among other self-imposed claims which distanced him from the original apostles of Jesus based in Jerusalem. Any angel (messenger) is to be judged by the message itself, if there be any truth or value in it.pj
Gotta go now! I'll be back!
That's what the Jews say about Jesus even though they know the OT scripture really well.
In what way were they dabbling in the occult? Sadler and many of the early Forum members were devout seventh day Adventists (Christians) being very traditional-orthodox and against anything 'occult', in fact Sadler begin to research and study cases and factors associated with various forms of spiritualism, trance-channeling, psychics, etc. and wrote books about it, also exposing any fakes or frauds in such practices,...just like you, he was just as much against the 'occult' as any Christian today. The case with the 'sleeping subject' was different and unique from any of the other 'spiritualistic' cases that he was investigating, and what came forth thru him is contained in the papers.
See:
The Religious Affiliation of
Dr. William S. Sadler
Influential Physician and Founding Urantian
Notes on Dr. Sadler
The truth revealed thru the personality of Jesus has always existed since his 'incarnation', yet its 'light' has unfolded thru 'progressive revelation'.
This is Paul's statement, not Jesus
pj
Any time people can't provide mature dialogue they say cult or satan or demons.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Truth beyond words or concepts..................
Truth beyond words or concepts..................
The 'truth' you speak of is 'relative'.....hence it is subject to being contested, contrasted or compared, with other relative points of view
Absolute truth itself however, is beyond all these dualities, or even words. It is what is actually being, as the core-light of pure awareness,...the inner flame of the 'I AM'
The reality of 'God' is closer than hands or feet.....and is beyond words.
pj
Truth beyond words or concepts..................
The 'truth' you speak of is 'relative'.....hence it is subject to being contested, contrasted or compared, with other relative points of view
Absolute truth itself however, is beyond all these dualities, or even words. It is what is actually being, as the core-light of pure awareness,...the inner flame of the 'I AM'
The reality of 'God' is closer than hands or feet.....and is beyond words.
pj
See the article. Evidence that demons do not exist anymore. Thanks.
Is this true? Would it only be true if it were in the bible? Is it true on its own merit?
(1610.1) 143:2.6 “Salvation is by the regeneration of the spirit and not by the self-righteous deeds of the flesh. You are justified by faith and fellowshipped by grace, not by fear and the self-denial of the flesh, albeit the Father’s children who have been born of the spirit are ever and always masters of the self and all that pertains to the desires of the flesh. When you know that you are saved by faith, you have real peace with God. And all who follow in the way of this heavenly peace are destined to be sanctified to the eternal service of the ever-advancing sons of the eternal God. Henceforth, it is not a duty but rather your exalted privilege to cleanse yourselves from all evils of mind and body while you seek for perfection in the love of God."
(1610.1) 143:2.6 “Salvation is by the regeneration of the spirit and not by the self-righteous deeds of the flesh. You are justified by faith and fellowshipped by grace, not by fear and the self-denial of the flesh, albeit the Father’s children who have been born of the spirit are ever and always masters of the self and all that pertains to the desires of the flesh. When you know that you are saved by faith, you have real peace with God. And all who follow in the way of this heavenly peace are destined to be sanctified to the eternal service of the ever-advancing sons of the eternal God. Henceforth, it is not a duty but rather your exalted privilege to cleanse yourselves from all evils of mind and body while you seek for perfection in the love of God."
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
That's all they've been spouting about the UB since day one here.....on 'repeat'. It would behoove some to at least engage in an intelligent 'creative' dialogue, using the context as a springboard to augment and enhance actual discussion, like iron sharpening iron.
Truth (being relative to a conceptual frame of reference) is true wherever it is found. Being cognizant of that is key to open up further doors or dimensions of discussion.
pj