Greg Jennings
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I am. Which is why I think answers that are pure philosophy leave something wanting
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I am. Which is why I think answers that are pure philosophy leave something wanting
George Affleck
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Well, I think we made progress.
You admit there is a reasonable logic behind the assertion that there is an uncaused, infinite cause for the finite universe.
And I admit that taking the final leap to calling that cause God is what defines religion; particularly Christian belief.
As has been pointed out, nobody claimed "totally round." Spherical is accurate. Egg-shaped or pear-shaped is not.
1. The two shapes describe different effects, not the shape of the Earth.
2. The Earth is properly described as spherical.
1. The Bible doesn't describe a circle with a dome over it.
2. The Koran doesn't say anything more than the Bible.
My comment was not directed at you.
Greg Jennings
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Then indeed we are in agreement, George. We did it!
Greg Jennings
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"Pear-shaped" came from NASA. Therefore I think it's probably accurate
When those effects are seen every second of every hour of every day, then yes they do describe the shape of the Earth
It's a reasonable description for sure, just not totally accurate. And I don't think that the Bible says "spherical" does it?
Isaiah 40:22 clearly describes a flat circle with the heavens stretched over it like a tent. That would be a hemisphere, or dome.
Egg-shaped is far more accurate than hemisphere.
My mistake
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George Affleck
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Hallelujah! Praise the infinite cause.
Do you think infinite cause should be capitalized?
They used the phrase to describe an effect caused by the Earth's rotation. Their description of the Earth is "spherical."
The Earth is not shaped like an egg or a pear. It is spherical — as much as any other object could be called spherical. The slight effects of rotation do not change the proper description.
Of course it's accurate. :AMR: We wouldn't call the Earth round if it wasn't round.
What? :AMR:
No, it doesn't.
The Earth is round, not egg-shaped.
The Koran says no more about the Earth than the Bible.
Greg Jennings
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Stripe my friend, shaking your head and stamping your feet in defiance does nothing to change facts, I'm afraid. As such, you denying plain facts does yourself no favors here. You have been shown to be incorrect on the subjects of your post here. Pretending that is not so makes no difference, and it makes you appear less intelligent than I think you likely are. But if you want to continue this charade that's up to you.
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But you're not going to explain how or where.
The Earth is properly described as spherical. It would be incorrect to call it egg-shaped or pear-shaped. Those descriptions are only useful for describing how rotation slightly distorts the Earth's sphericity.
Do you even know why the Earth is round?
And the Koran says nothing more than the Bible on the shape of the Earth.
Greg Jennings
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But you're not going to explain how or where.
The Earth is properly described as spherical. It would be incorrect to call it egg-shaped or pear-shaped. Those descriptions are only useful for describing how rotation slightly distorts the Earth's sphericity.
Do you even know why the Earth is round?
And the Koran says nothing more than the Bible on the shape of the Earth.
Stripe just read what I posted to you earlier. I know better than to get in these exchanges that you get in with others where you simply repeat things over and over that you've been shown are false repeatedly. You just don't care about the facts it seems. You're an activist, not a scientist.
I'll give you one more shot and ask you this: how is a hemisphere a better description of the Earth's shape than egg-shaped?
The Earth is spherical. Your link explicitly stated so. "The shape of the Geode, as it is called, is nearly a perfect sphere."
The Bible does not describe a "hemisphere." The Earth is not egg-shaped.
Greg Jennings
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Let your endless ignoring of facts and answers contradictory to your belief system commence.
What facts.
The Bible actually serves the purpose of saving His sheep by filtering out the rest.
Luke 22:31 (NIV)
"Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat.
Greg Jennings
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Seeing as you've already admitted (correctly) that it isn't perfectly round then I fail to see the point, but go for it
Greg Jennings
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Facts that we as humans have gathered by observing and studying the natural world. Those facts
That remains humans' arrogance.
How can ancient humans examine to tell the existence of black holes and a round earth?
Similarly, how can today's human examine to tell the existence of any spiritual truths not lying inside our realm?
Ancient humans can't reach those scientific truths because their technology is futile about those truths. Similarly, today's technology is futile in reaching any spiritual truths.
Greg Jennings
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No one is saying (at least I'm not) that there is no possible spiritual truths lying inside or outside our realm. But if they exist then they aren't measurable, and are therefore only philosophical and not scientific.
So you're lecturing me (incorrectly) on the shape of the Earth, but you don't know why it is spherical. Great.
That remains your ignorance.
Tell us what you did exactly a year ago on Oct 09, 2014. How measurable is that, or are you simply not present that day for any truth to exist?