Free-Agent Smith
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I don't see anything about the death penalty being dropped in Hebrews 8.theo_victis said:
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theo_victis
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You never know with all of his ad hominems.
I dont think of him as an enemy
theo_victis
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The law is obsolete for those in Christ
ApologeticJedi
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Chileice said:
Absolutely. I've agreed with Theo on a couple of points already.
Chileice said:
Didn't he very early on concede that the death penalty was not a deterent the way it is used in America? Did he not also concede that states that have the death penalty may be having higher murder rates as well?
I think Turbo has shown a willingness to concede minor points. Theo has conceded nothing even when it is obvious to all.
...said the guy who just called me egotistical. :doh:theo_victis said:
Your insults aside, I'm glad that you've now conceded that people do in fact use the expression, "condemned to life in prison" But I wonder what you thought you had to gain by denying it the other day even after I posted that Google link. :idunno:
Wouldn't it be more productive to just abandon an idea as soon as you realize it is wrong? Otherwise we just go around in circles and waste a lot of time.
theo_victis
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My apologies if I did use ad hominems. I hate them. Could you please be specific and point out where in the debate I did this? I dont ever recall doing so, but you know, it is easy to do.
theo_victis
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Be patient my friend. I will answer this when I respond with my next post Btw, how was your weekend?
theo_victis
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I didnt deny it. I said so what. Then I googled that. I thought you were being funny trying to google things (as if that is a reputable source). I was only being humorous back. It seemed you wasted time by actually trying to prove your point. If it was so frivolous as you think then why respond at all?
That is why I think you were being egotistical (which is not an ad hominem btw when I am actually using it to describe you). You always have to be right, dont you?
theo_victis
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I am glad! You know, my party was awesome. I had like 50 people over and it went swell.
My claim, which you were challenging, was that people use the phrase "condemned to life in prison." The Google search produced a list of 17,500 pages which included that exact phrase. Those pages were written by people. So, the list gave 17,500 examples of people using the phrase "condemned to life in prison." I can't think of a better way to prove that a certain word is commonly used in a certain context. (Can you?)theo_victis said:
How is such a list not reputable? Do you think Google search results do not accurately reflect the content of the pages they list?
I admit, I laughed at your response. But I was also disappointed in how childishly you reacted to being shown your error.
You said that I had just made up my claim that that people use the phrase "condemned to life in prison." In essence, you were accusing me of lying. Proving that I wasn't lying was so fast and easy, why wouldn't I?
What makes you think that those times you've accused me of using ad hominems, I didn't think I was actually describing you?
Nope.
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Theo:
8But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
12And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
Theo:
I just don't know where you get these foolish ideas from, "Dichotomy"
In reading this debate I just can't understand how you can think your interpretation is correct.
I can only come the conclusion that you think you are being more "spiritual" than other who hold to the BV of the DP.
8But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
12And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
Theo:
I just don't know where you get these foolish ideas from, "Dichotomy"
In reading this debate I just can't understand how you can think your interpretation is correct.
I can only come the conclusion that you think you are being more "spiritual" than other who hold to the BV of the DP.
theo_victis
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I agree that the law is good. Please see Romans 5:20. This tells us that the Law was added for our transgression. Everyone breaks the law and sins, so therefore we need grace. The law was fulfilled and made obsolete in Christ, we as Christians no longer condemn by others by the law nor are we condemned by the law by God. It is that simple.
Puh-lease. I hate ultra spiritual "luvy-duby" crap.
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