Christine
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From the context, I see that this is addressing believers. Isaiah 53:4-5 is clearly addressing believers, " Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him sticken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." You may try to say that the "our" pharases in these verese are referring to unbelievers or "all men," but that doesn't line up with the last "our" phrase-- "our peace." Unbelievers don't have peace.
"The whole world" here is referring to to the fact that Christ's death was not just for the Jews, but also for the Gentiles. The ancient rabbinic writings used the term "world" to refer to the rest of the non-Jewish world. This makes sense seeing 1 John was written to the Jews.
From the context, it should be "all kinds" of men, as that fits better. Paul used this same word in 1 Timothy 2:1-2, just a few verses prior. "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty." Here, we see that not referring to "all men" as you would like to interpet "all," but instead to "all kinds of men" including kings and those in authority over us.
This passage says that Christ is "the Savior of the world." That doesn't mean he died for every individual in the world. Instead, the part in question means, that He's come to save people from every nation and not just Israel as He had predominately done in the past. This can be proven from the context since Jesus had been talking to the Samaritan woman.
That whole passage is talking about God's elect and predestination. Romans 8:30-33, "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He tht spared not his own Son, but delievered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Who say lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth." Again, from the context, I see that the "us all" is referring to God's elect, the saved.
Yes, and only the elect are going to beleieve.
That's not what the verses you posted prove.
It appears that whole chapter, includign these two verses, is addressing believers. I can tell this because earlier in the chapter it is discussing spiritual baptism. Romans 6:3, "Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?" Unbelievers do not experience spiritual baptism, so this is not applicable to them.
Since it's addressed to believers, "all" would be "all saved" or "all elect."
