Are You Legally saved?
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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'Saved/sozo' has other meanings in Scripture than eternal salvation.
Sometimes it means 'deliverance' from physical harm or death.
Such is the case in Matthew where the Lord is speaking of the salvation of flesh during the great tribulation.
Those believers who endure during that dreadful time and see the Lord Jesus coming in His glory with all the holy angels with Him, shall be 'delivered' from physical death.
Eternal salvation during the period we are now in comes only through trust in Christ's finished work on the cross and His resurrection from the dead on the third day.
It is only by grace through faith, it is the gift of GOD, not of works lest anyone should boast.
KingdomRose
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You rattle off scriptures without an understanding of what you are saying. When Paul wrote Ephesians 2:8,9 he was explaining how the works of the Law could not save anyone. Jesus fulfilled the Law and the people were no longer under its curse. (Galatians 3:10,13) It is THOSE works that cannot save anyone. The works of the Law actually pointed ahead to the Messiah who would take the curse away. The works that Jesus expects us to do now are not works of the Law, but works that "befit repentence" and that imitate what Jesus himself did, and what he told us to do. Of course we have to accept Jesus' sacrifice first, and then do good works, as Jesus taught us.
You rattle off scriptures without an understanding of what you are saying.
beloved57
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False teaching. You deny the Saving death of Christ on top of that.
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You have not been legally saved. You must go through Christ to be saved. No one will enter heaven that has not been justified.
beloved57
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You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost, denying that He's Saviour!
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You don't understand the Bible, the scripture plainly says the Jesus died for everyone, Hebrews 2:9.
beloved57
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And you teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost.
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They are lost because like you they thought that they had been predestinated to salvation.
beloved57
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So you don't believe that Christ death alone saved them He died for because of what they think?
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Faith in Christ and his Gospel is the entrance into heaven.
beloved57
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So you don't believe that all sinners Christ died for are going to heaven based solely on His Blood alone?
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There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. ...
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No one will enter heaven that has not received Christ as their savior, John 1:12.
Nanja
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Receiving Christ by one who has not been Born of God, is a work of the flesh which cannot please Him Rom. 8:8.
So then, who are those that shall receive Christ?
Only those who have been Born of God Rom. 8:9!
John 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
So it's only those who had been Born of God that shall Believe on His Name!
For Belief / Faith is a fruit of the Spirit given in New Birth: Born of God! Gal. 5:22.