Hi Lee, when you said "Yet we read, "The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away...", and "shall we receive good from the Lord, and not trouble?", and Job did not sin when he said this.
Yet you say I sin when I say this," I asked you to fill in the blank for a question.
You said:
lee_merrill said:
I hold to all but C, in the sense that God is not the source of evil, though he does wield sinful Assyria like an ax, and he does take away when the Sabeans took away, and he did plan even the cross, and orchestrate, and cause, and use it...
Which amounts to:
God cause, uses, and orchestrates sin to bring good, but does not author sin.
I do not see a difference between author, orchestrate, and causing in context to the sentence above. I wonder how you can really say the three are different.
I did agree that you say he uses sin for good... as stated by me before, but only those sins already committed.
So now that we have estableshed where we both stand in short simple statements, let me now say that I was right in saying you sin in what you say above. But you do not sin by quoting the verse, "The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away...", and "shall we receive good from the Lord, and not trouble?", and Job did not sin when he said this."
The two statements are very different. God does give and he does take away. He does it in righteousness and justice. Job was right. And God does send trouble, Job was right again. He didn't sin when he said this. BUT he does not author, cause, or orchestrate trouble in the form of sin. EVER, this is what I have always said to you.